First "review" of an iPhone "in the wild" (submitted by an Apple fanboi so obviously it's all positive and no negatives)

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=317396

Some of the UI ideas do sound "very cool" - the magnifying glass to assist with finger editing of text, for instance. It does sound like Apple have put a huge amount of effort into creating a slick but also *very* usable finger-based UI, hopefully it's not too late for Nokia to put the same effort into Internet Tablets and create a much slicker and more usable UI than we have at present.

A transparent finger and stylus keyboard would be a great addition. Smoother webpage and overall scrolling would also be welcome. Even small additions of this sort could have a huge impact on the n800, all up to Nokia though.

I will never never buy an Iphone. Apple prefer to launch it in US and does not want
to make a WW launch. I will continue to use N800 or my N80.

About what can nokia learn:
At my view nearly nothing. Nokia kown how to put 8G in a phone, know how to
put a Touch screen and kow how to rotate the screen.
After this the Nokia Product Marketing is little bit weak on Smartphone devices
and the CEO does not make himself demonstration of his product. He is more
concentrated on the Nokia internal communication compare to Steve.

One thing they might learn would be to quit with the "fanboi" sh*t. It's very hard to learn from people you denigrate.

Plus, how can you even call it a "review" when an anonymous waiter in a restaurant plays with a customer's phone for a few minutes? If it were an N900 and all else were equal, would you react that way?

Hopefully, all vendors including Nokia will learn how to create UIs that I don't have to use the corner of my fingernail to operate! A translucent onscreen keyboard that lets me see the chat while I'm responding would be nice.

Personally, I don't expect to own an iPhone, but I do expect to benefit from it as Nokia and other vendors rush to (a) make weak copies of superficial aspects of it, then (b) some figure out the hard interface stuff that matters. I just hope Nokia will be one of the smart ones who move to step (b).

ROFL... I got a kick out of the paranoia in that thread. Good thing that never happens here!

I'm not suggesting that anyone learns anything from Apple fans, but there's probably a lot for Nokia to learn from Apple in terms of how to design a slick and usable user interface... sigh. Maybe time will tell.

My pointing out that the review is from an Apple fan is not intended as denigration, rather it merely points out that the "review" has appeared on a fervently pro Apple site so is likely to be biased rather than neutral - consider it a caution for prospective readers. The same could be said about any Internet Tablet "reviews" that are posted here - they'll be biased in one way or another, most likely "pro" as many of us are Nokia Internet Tablet fans to one extent or another.

And besides, I'm yet to meet an Apple owner who doesn't drool at the mouth when discussing the iPhone! And some of these people are friends of mine who in all other respects can be considered entirely normal - it's a bizarre effect that Jobs and his crew have on otherwise ordinary people!

Did you notice I put the word "review" in quotes, suggesting that I didn't believe it to be a "real" review at all? Apparently not.

I've never used the iPhone but I own a Treo 650 and N800... there are alot of pretty basic things that the tablet is missing...

All the basic applications the thing ships with SUCKS, they are unstable, some in beta. For example the email application is pure garbage no filters?? How about inboxes for each email account?

Nokia basically said here's the hardware guys... open soruce dev's take it away! and of course open source dev's do what they normally do...

Take an app and port it to something verbatim HELLO this is a portable device you can't have massive buttons that take up the entire screen. It's fine that Nokia wants open source dev's to contribute but they shouldn't solely rely on the open source community to do everything.

Take for example Gaim... great little app under the hood it does everything it's supposed to do... the UI for the N800 is absolutely horrible... for a handheld device that's short on screen space.

I still use my Treo 650 for chat I would rather pay the expensive GPRS fees than use the N800 why? because it takes me twice as long to type/write as it does on the Treo 650's keyboard. I'm not saying that the N800 should have a physical keyboard but if they want to use a virtual keyboard for god sakes spend some more time and get it right.

Oh right and why the heck doesn't the address book import Vcard Version 3.0 and why doesn't it handle a single vcard file with multiple contacts?

Currently in my opnion the N800's software and OS is far below even Windows Mobile.

The iPhone interface guided tour was just released. I might have to add the iPhone to my gadget arsenal (which includes the N800). I was really impressed with the Google stuff, because it looks like it was designed for the iPhone.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiph...our_small.html

Enough iPhone talk. No one has ever used it here, neither have the idiots that are going to camp out of the store that are going to bow down at Apple with all their money before a real customer review has come out. Either Apple are good or there are just too many people that worship Apple and get brainwashed. Its just pathetic that people are going to buy this phone without even trying it. I know, I know, it would be great for touchscreen to improve on the N800, but improve like the iPhone, you haven't even used it, right now its an idea, but no one has owned a N800 and iPhone to compare. So as far as comparing, if you think something needs be improved, stop looking at the iPhone until you actually have used it for a while. Just remember this is the first time Apple's done a phone. Nokia have been doing this sort of thing since day dot.