Originally Posted by dread123

this thread turned into a witchhunt thats why..the mods could easily edit nearly all replies except from him and the officials on here.leaving it a bit more civalised

Originally Posted by ewan

I don't know. It's not an easy question, but it's clearly one that needs to be answered, hence the suggestion of getting a view from the Community Council.



That's a possibility. The arguments for that seem fairly straightforward:
- He can't be trusted, and untrustworthy software should be kept out of the maemo.org repositories for the good on maemo.org
- There needs to be a clear penalty otherwise we're just inviting similar abuses in future.

I think it probably would be better all round if we could find a way back from this, but it's hard to see how that can happen until or unless SIO2 appears to recognise the wrongness of their actions, and I don't think they really do. I don't think it would be a good idea to let it slide with no action at all though - the maemo.org project and repositories have a (deserved) reputation for shipping good quality, properly QA-ed packages, and that will go away if maemo.org is seen to condone packagers circumventing the mechanisms that are set up to achieve that.

Originally Posted by EzInKy

How in the world does keeping such issues behind closed doors help the people who actually shelled out their hard earned cash to buy the device though?

Originally Posted by Bratag

What he did - wrong (though technically it should never have been able to happen in the first place if the correct security had been in place)

Originally Posted by Bratag

Ok - so you are a dev, you have a product ready to go to market. As we all know first to market is key in any new platform. You pay your money to use the "store" only to find that despite taking your money - they wont take your app. You then discover that there is a community supported repository where your app will get exposure, but in order to get into it you need 10 approvals, apps can and have been waiting months to get those approvals. Keeping in mind, to the best of my knowledge, there is to be no vetting process by Nokia for apps in the store - even if it was to be functioning correctly. So you find a way to approve your own app - not even bothering to really hide the fact, but not pointing it out either.

Perhaps not the most transparent of actions, but not warranting the rabid response of the moral police either.

Oh and in response to your earlier statement about living a place where you can leave your wallet etc unattended. I would very much like to know where that is - I have lived in 5 countries on 3 continents and in none of them would I have left my wallet alone for even 30 seconds

Originally Posted by TA-t3

There is no security in the world which can prevent someone from registering multiple accounts just for voting. This is pretty obvious. Whatever conditions are added (must have posted, must have done this, or that) can easily be circumvented the moment you know about them.

Thus, trust in people to not abuse the system is needed. Breaking this trust is, to me, unforgivable. Sorry SIO2, I won't touch your applications. Ever.

Originally Posted by Bratag

Can you tell me what the QA process is for apps that go into the OVI store? (Assuming it actually worked). I can't remember ever seeing one.

Originally Posted by slender

Come oooon. Did you see his first packages there. He got 10 votes in one day from community members! I didn't have to wait for months for approval. And what you described is in my opinion highly unaccebtable behaviour and I really really hope that I will not do business with people minds like that. (Actually reminds me a bit one of my friends who is lawyer :| Not in good way.)


Are you trying to say that I´m trying to be highest priest of rightfulness and sinless soul? F no. I´m just pissed because I bought his software, I gave feedback, I gave vote for one of his Hoops versions and then happens this.


I was trying to say that i can leave my wallet to my jacket's pocket and leave jacket almost where ever without fear of getting robbed. Actually i have dropped my wallet and my keys once and got them back from police station. I have done this also to other people belongings. I´m not saying that everyone is like that, but i was trying to tell what kind of person I´am and why this might feel bad to me. So that people like you and others who do not take this so seriously could understand different people.

.edit Oh and my country you can see below my name.