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#51
Originally Posted by sapporobaby
1. Handwriting recognition = Useless
Never used it much, seemed to work well enough after teaching it my handwriting though, but I have horrible handwriting anyways so I tend to stay away from recognition.

Originally Posted by sapporobaby
2. Camera = Useless
Well, it was integrated specifically for video chat and because you're going to be relatively close to the camera, there's not really a need for a really good camera for that. (Yes, I use videochat all the time and no, you don't need two N800s for it.) I use it sometimes to take pictures as well, but the quality isn't very good for that. I would like to see better, but I'm glad it's there. Far from useless to me.

Originally Posted by sapporobaby
3. Current OS = Useless (debatable)
Absolutely not useless.

Originally Posted by sapporobaby
4. Phone = Oppssss..... doesn't have one
Could have fooled me. I've been using Gizmo on the N800 as my full time phone for months.

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5. Wifi = Not bad
I've yet to see better on any other piece of commercial equipment.

Originally Posted by sapporobaby
6. Keyboard = Tip, tip, tip, tip ( darn defective touchscreen)
Send it in and get it fixed instead of whining about it then. My touchscreen works just fine (and with heavy chat use too).

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The hits just keep on coming. Hopefully Nokia sees the error (N800) of its ways and designs a product that is usable right out of the box.
Plenty usable for me. I didn't expect it to be a full PC with the absolute best software and PIM. I didn't expect it to replace a business phone like a Blackberry. I just wanted internet wherever I am and it gives me that and so much more.
 
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Originally Posted by nyleridedog View Post
even if it's crud, it will sell by the bucket load and
that got me thinking, does anyones girlfriends actually like the n800? cos mine does'nt give it a second glance!
Well, my wife who knows nill about computers loves it, she steals it all the time to surfe the web in the kitchen or the garden. When I can't find my 800 I know where to look
 
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Originally Posted by Irwin J. Finster View Post
Well, my wife who knows nill about computers loves it, she steals it all the time to surfe the web in the kitchen or the garden. When I can't find my 800 I know where to look
My wife is the type of person that hates spending much money, especially on expensive tech gadgets, but she comes around quick. When I bought the 22 inch widescreen LCD monitor I'm using, I thought she was going to kill me.

"YOU SPENT ALL THAT MONEY ON -"
*turns on screen*
"...oooh, that's nice."

She was the same way with the N800. She screamed at me for buying it but within about 30 seconds of trying it for the first time, she loved it and was trying to find excuses to use it.

"I don't know where we are... give me the tablet."
"We're down the street from our house! We can't be lost!"
"Just give it!"
 
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Originally Posted by nyleridedog View Post
that got me thinking, does anyones girlfriends actually like the n800? cos mine does'nt give it a second glance!
Mine doesn't either. She can't be bothered: "Were's the laptop?"
 
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Originally Posted by Frankowitz View Post
Mine doesn't either. She can't be bothered: "Were's the laptop?"
Point. Explained the 770 to my sister, she doesn't even touch it when it's lying unused on the table in standby mode.

What's more, she also owns a spiffy Macbook that she only ever uses to write and to surf and neglects otherwise. Maybe it's just hardwired into women to be indifferent?
 
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Originally Posted by sapporobaby View Post
Hmmmmm......

N800:

1. Handwriting recognition = Useless
2. Camera = Useless
3. Current OS = Useless (debatable)
4. Phone = Oppssss..... doesn't have one
5. Wifi = Not bad
6. Keyboard = Tip, tip, tip, tip ( darn defective touchscreen)

The hits just keep on coming. Hopefully Nokia sees the error (N800) of its ways and designs a product that is usable right out of the box.
go buy your iphone - i really couldn't care less if you weren't happy with the n800, plenty of people here who are happy with all the disadvantages and pros that come with it. return or sell your n800 and stop complaining. There are plenty of people who would love to have your device. Ungrateful. Why don't you make some kid happy in Rwanda and send it there. Just make sure to load ScummVM first.
 
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Originally Posted by earl00 View Post
go buy your iphone - i really couldn't care less if you weren't happy with the n800, plenty of people here who are happy with all the disadvantages and pros that come with it. return or sell your n800 and stop complaining. There are plenty of people who would love to have your device. Ungrateful. Why don't you make some kid happy in Rwanda and send it there. Just make sure to load ScummVM first.
Wow, you must really love your N800. I hope you two have a happy life. At no point in this thread did I say I would buy the iPhone. However I did point out its advantages as I saw them. As to the happy people here, great for them. Hopefully Nokia will design a better device, and if so, I will be the first in line to buy one. Who are you to call someone ungrateful because I don't happen to believe a particular device is worth the time and effort required to get a usable (my opinion) experience. Do you realize how nutty you sound?

As for sending it to Rwanda? I would if I wanted to torture someone. Are we through with this yet? By the way, I did not start this thread. I just commented in it, so aim your misguided rage and rants toward the OP.
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
1. The HWR isn't useless (I can print faster than I can pen-tap on the keyboard), there's just a lot of room for improvement. The "HWR" that came standard on my P910 -- Jot -- was pretty useless too, but installing Decuma Alphabetic made a world of difference.

2. Likewise, the camera isn't useless, but more a solution in search of a problem. I believe the application idea I proposed elsewhere (a photo-notepad) could be very useful.

3. The OS is great (after all, Debian is the OS God uses!), but the user interface is flawed. I believe the same will go for the iPhone, as Apple has long ago sacked the only people it had who even knew how to spell usor intarrface.

4. The N800 doesn't need to be a phone.

5. The WiFi on the N800 is by far the best I've ever seen in a portable device.

6. The big keyboard works rather well. Unfortunately I'm one of those people who need tactile feedback, which is why I alternate between HWR and a BT keyboard (with the exception of the Xterm, which doesn't "do" HWR very well).

I see the N800 as a sort of Swiss Army pocket knife: Out of the box it doesn't do a lot of things very well; and a new user does need to read the manual to learn what each sharp implement does (not to mention that he can really cut himself if he doesn't); but in the end you'll be able to do a lot of things that people without a Swiss knife can't do, or can't even imagine are possible.
Hey Karel,

Thanks for the great response. I do love your posts. After reading and re-reading your post I realized that you hit some good points which I know will lead me to the next version of the IT when it comes out. I like the IT concept but for me, and in my opinion, the current N800 is not a consumer device but I am sure the next version will be. Nokia does sometimes learn from its customers.
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Originally Posted by sapporobaby View Post
As for sending it to Rwanda? I would if I wanted to torture someone.
Why don't you send it back to Nokia for repair? Judging from your post your N800 is clearly defective. (touchscreen should be working perfectly) . Maybe a correctly functioning N800 would make you change your mind about the device.
 
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Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
Why don't you send it back to Nokia for repair? Judging from your post your N800 is clearly defective. (touchscreen should be working perfectly) . Maybe a correctly functioning N800 would make you change your mind about the device.
Thanks Bernard. My actual first evaluation of the N800 was for a customer. The US military. They are looking into different devices with different applications, ease of use, robustness, durability, applications, etc.... In its current incarnation the N800 is not ready for this. The ability to sync contacts and have calendaring info is crucial for military applications. Without these basics the N800 is a non-starter. As for the other issues, touch screen, I did not personally have this but have read about many that did have it. Bad batch maybe. I did get the reboot cycle of death, and the crash and burn quite often. In its current state I could not recommend the N800.
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