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2010-02-24 , 22:17
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Originally Posted by ndi View Post
a) because I was raised like that...
Well I have been very professional with nokia and yet I don't hear back from them. I have contacted both nokia us and nokia uk and none have replied other than the confimation that they have received my email. This has been what like 4 months ago i sent them?! So u expect me to be nice, i think i have been patient enough so for me to be a raving lunatic is understandable.

u can carry on sucking them off coz it aint gona work and Ive worked in the IT in the past so i knw hw things work, i dnt need to be taught etiquettes or manners.
If they flip us off then why not flip them off, at least that way they can understand and come to senses 1 day.........maybe.....or maybe not
 
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2010-02-24 , 23:07
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#92
Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Personally, I just recommend not buying anymore Nokia stuff until their policies change. The usual "vote with your dollars" along with a healthy dose of explanation as to why you don't spend your money on their products might finally catch their attention more than a simple pleading letter. There needs to be a carrot AND a stick (carrot being the constructive suggestions, the stick being a withdrawal of purchasing the brand).
This is good in theory, but in practice, it doesn't work; no longer buying lowers R&D budget and gets people fired.

By the time they have that darned meeting about focusing on fixing and leaving the candy aside it'll be too late. No market share, unhappy customers, less money, less everything.

You can't force light on people. I learned that the hard way, many times. You'd think that dragging people into the light would make them grateful. It never does. People in the dark like the dark. Transition hurts the eyes and nobody wants that. You either grind your teeth and do it or not.

Look at Microsoft. By the time XP was out, they had the reputation of writing OSs like Swiss Cheese - holes everywhere (partly because people didn't understand what NT was). They learned their lesson while people started migrating out. Service packs for XP were officially declared halted for improvements and focused exclusively on security, user experience, stability. You can't tell an XP from and XP SP3 by looking at it.

I hate to put MS in a good light on an essentially Linux forum, but whatever you might think, it paid off. XP is stable and by far the preferred OS all around.

I have since purchased W7. Yes with money. You know why? Because Windows XP was out in 2001. In 2008, SP3 was out, proving sustained dedication to the customer. By this time, Vista was 2 years old already. XP is still supported and will be actively patched until 2014. It was eighty bucks.

That's 13 years from first release to last security patch. And I mean in XP, not scheduled to be fixed in Vista.

"Fixed for Harmattan" is not in these guys' vocabulary.
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2010-02-24 , 23:16
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Originally Posted by badboyuk View Post
u can carry on sucking them off coz it aint gona work and Ive worked in the IT in the past so i knw hw things work, i dnt need to be taught etiquettes or manners.
If they flip us off then why not flip them off, at least that way they can understand and come to senses 1 day.........maybe.....or maybe not
I submit that nothing good has ever come from a flipping contest. Why do it?

Additionally, there's been some misunderstanding, I never aspired to teach you manners, mostly because anyone who thinks manners can be taught over a forum conversation by a stranger needs to have people in white coats take a good look around the ol' box. I was simply answering a question.
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2010-02-24 , 23:17
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Hi. Nokia..

I spent 550 dolars.. my economy is not so good like the other people here ( I live in Ecuador and 550 dolares means 1 month of my salary)... I decide to buy this for supporting a website on the internet.. (computer mobile+ internet-> ideal machine for supporting)... but hey.. what up with you.. if I buy a computer... I expect upgrade the operative system to the next version or Next..

(this is not computer mobile ).. In example.. I bought a desktop computer or a laptop computer.. I can upgrade my Operative System.. from Win 98 to Win 2000 and I can put Win 2000 Server.. and then Win XP and now Vista.. okay.. maybe the performance is a little slow.. but it works..

What about your computer mobile?... I spent my salary for some accesory temp.. If this is what will you do .. then you are working worst than Microsoft..

Hey.. this is linux world.. and I always believe that I bought a computer mobile.. not a linux version.

Thank you.

Mauricio (Ecuador)
 

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2010-02-25 , 01:37
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Originally Posted by badboyuk View Post
u can carry on sucking them off coz it aint gona work and Ive worked in the IT in the past so i knw hw things work, i dnt need to be taught etiquettes or manners.
If they flip us off then why not flip them off, at least that way they can understand and come to senses 1 day.........maybe.....or maybe not
With the way you spell and talk, let alone the way you are 'reasoning', I'd be very surprised if you are old enough for a high school, not to mention working in the IT industry

Just my two cents...
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2010-02-25 , 02:04
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I want MeeGo on my N900 but Nokia gave me NooGO instead.
I guess NooGo is as good as MeeGo lol
 
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2010-02-25 , 03:30
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Just a quick note:

Has Nokia ever asked you to pay for an update? No. Do you have to pay to get a new version of the OS from Nokia (whether it's named Maemo 6, MeeGo or Grobelsnock doesn't matter)? No.

Don't say that when you buy a computer you can upgrade it to the new version of the OS, because that's simply not true. If you buy a computer with XP, you need to shell out again to move to Windows 7. If you buy a Mac with Tiger, you need to shell out to get Snow Leopard -- and the hardware needs to be compatible.

How many people couldn't upgrade to Vista because their hardware wasn't beefy enough? Plenty. How many bought a new computer in order to get Vista/Windows 7? Plenty.

And for latinmau, or anyone else who says "OMG this device is expensive, I want lifetime support": Don't spend your money if you can't afford it. Your N900 won't stop working the day Maemo 6 or MeeGo comes out. People are still using the 770 with OS2007 or HE and are very happy with it.

If you bought the device, you bought it for a reason; those reasons won't cease to exist the day a new version of the OS comes out. If they do, you bought it for the wrong reasons.
 

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Originally Posted by CrashandDie View Post
Just a quick note:

Has Nokia ever asked you to pay for an update? No. Do you have to pay to get a new version of the OS from Nokia (whether it's named Maemo 6, MeeGo or Grobelsnock doesn't matter)? No.

Don't say that when you buy a computer you can upgrade it to the new version of the OS, because that's simply not true. If you buy a computer with XP, you need to shell out again to move to Windows 7. If you buy a Mac with Tiger, you need to shell out to get Snow Leopard -- and the hardware needs to be compatible.

How many people couldn't upgrade to Vista because their hardware wasn't beefy enough? Plenty. How many bought a new computer in order to get Vista/Windows 7? Plenty.

And for latinmau, or anyone else who says "OMG this device is expensive, I want lifetime support": Don't spend your money if you can't afford it. Your N900 won't stop working the day Maemo 6 or MeeGo comes out. People are still using the 770 with OS2007 or HE and are very happy with it.

If you bought the device, you bought it for a reason; those reasons won't cease to exist the day a new version of the OS comes out. If they do, you bought it for the wrong reasons.
i think NOKIA is used to old ways, selling crappy phones in albaniand developed world, but when it comes to the real competitive world their software and customer support are subpar, hence.......they will do well in developing countries with their penny devices but will slowly lose out the high end game...
 
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2010-02-25 , 06:38
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Dear Nokia,

Thank you for not making me wait two years for copy-and-paste. And thank you for not calling me a criminal because I have root access to my device. Oh, and thanks for opening up icd2, and MeeGo looks like a good move. It's cool that there's companies in the West that still believe in freedom.

Keep up the excellent work.
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2010-02-25 , 07:13
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Originally Posted by CrashandDie View Post
Just a quick note:

Has Nokia ever asked you to pay for an update? No. Do you have to pay to get a new version of the OS from Nokia (whether it's named Maemo 6, MeeGo or Grobelsnock doesn't matter)? No.

Don't say that when you buy a computer you can upgrade it to the new version of the OS, because that's simply not true. If you buy a computer with XP, you need to shell out again to move to Windows 7. If you buy a Mac with Tiger, you need to shell out to get Snow Leopard -- and the hardware needs to be compatible.

How many people couldn't upgrade to Vista because their hardware wasn't beefy enough? Plenty. How many bought a new computer in order to get Vista/Windows 7? Plenty.

And for latinmau, or anyone else who says "OMG this device is expensive, I want lifetime support": Don't spend your money if you can't afford it. Your N900 won't stop working the day Maemo 6 or MeeGo comes out. People are still using the 770 with OS2007 or HE and are very happy with it.

If you bought the device, you bought it for a reason; those reasons won't cease to exist the day a new version of the OS comes out. If they do, you bought it for the wrong reasons.
Exactly - so the best thing to do for everyone who is disappointed with your n900 is to SELL and RETURN your n900, tell all your friends and aquaintences that you will NOT get support from Nokia like you would with Apple iphone/google Andriod.

Spread the news, get people to understand that Nokia only wants to push handsets, once they have your money they will move onto the next handset with no expectations of providing any support - that is the NOKIA way.

So if you buy Nokia, ONLY BUY throw away low cost models which require no support, and NEVER ever buy high end handsets from them.
 
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