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2010-03-16 , 05:17
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Originally Posted by DaveP1 View Post
It will cost them money to make Meego work on the N900.
Making MeeGo work on the N900 is costing money already now. There is a team working on this as we speak, and as MeeGo first code release is taking shape.

The N900 was announced as official ARM hardware platform for MeeGo. This means that you can expect an open source operating system working on the N900 working on the N900 with a MeeGo API allowing you to install and run MeeGo applications.

The open source evolution path of the N900 is quite clear and looking good.

What Nokia hasn't announced yet is the commercial evolution path beyond the Maemo 5 official updates that it is granted that will keep coming. Yes, this is the same old question "Harmattan / MeeGo officially supported for the N900" and the same answer still prevails: http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re..._Harmattan_.3F
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2010-03-16 , 05:21
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#152
Originally Posted by Matan View Post
It will also sell other devices. See the people declaring on this forum - "this is the last Nokia I buy", with this as a reason.
that is a pee of a fly in pacific ocean... so that's no real argument pro getting meego officially to n900.

e: and n900 is inevitably old HW by now. and the sales increase would have to be massive in order to even make an effect to anything...
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#153
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
There is no commercial developer support for the sole reason of Ovi not providing a framework for that.
That can't be the whole story, since Ovi is not an exclusive channel to market like in some other platforms. I don't think the "future of the N900" is a significant reason either, but the development platform is in flux at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised if most commercial developers are adopting a wait-and-see approach.
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
if a developer build can run on N900, what technically stops a commercial build?
It depends on the definition of "can run". If all the hardware is fully supported, nothing. But there may be missing bits and pieces that are not essential for development (say, GPS, cellular modem, wifi, power management etc) but are in a commercial build for end-users.
 
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Originally Posted by lma View Post
That can't be the whole story, since Ovi is not an exclusive channel to market like in some other platforms. I don't think the "future of the N900" is a significant reason either, but the development platform is in flux at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised if most commercial developers are adopting a wait-and-see approach.
While not exclusive, it certainly is an obstacle many will not want to jump. We have seen plenty of existing commercial applications, dozens of games and other apps have been demoed here and there (meaning they're already mostly done) and they're all waiting for Ovi to be released properly. In the age of appstores most companies simply do not want to make their own payment channels, that's just too much fuss compared to the size of the market. The unavailability of a subscription model (which is the one that makes the most sense on the N900) does not help either.
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2010-03-16 , 10:42
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#156
Originally Posted by geohsia View Post
Currently it is unclear that they will merge Meego N (Harmattan) to Meego 1.0 (Maemo + Moblin).....
Peter Schneider has cleared this up. Maemo6/Harmattan will be MeeGo 1.0
 
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Originally Posted by Freemantle View Post
Peter Schneider has cleared this up. Maemo6/Harmattan will be MeeGo 1.0
Which is not the same MeeGo the N900 will be a HW reference platform to Seriously, I understand branding efforts, but this is just confusing.
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#158
Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Making MeeGo work on the N900 is costing money already now. There is a team working on this as we speak, and as MeeGo first code release is taking shape.

The N900 was announced as official ARM hardware platform for MeeGo. This means that you can expect an open source operating system working on the N900 working on the N900 with a MeeGo API allowing you to install and run MeeGo applications.

The open source evolution path of the N900 is quite clear and looking good.

What Nokia hasn't announced yet is the commercial evolution path beyond the Maemo 5 official updates that it is granted that will keep coming. Yes, this is the same old question "Harmattan / MeeGo officially supported for the N900" and the same answer still prevails: http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re..._Harmattan_.3F
So Just to be clear on this, and it echoes texrat's tabulacrypticum piece yesterday, Nokia is spending money on a "Developer's" version of Meego for the N900, but hasn't yet decided whether to bring a full commercial distribution to the unit.

The old question about Harmattan/Meego being supported on the N900 is not just a question about whether it is supported for developers but also for the average consumer, and while the developers are going to be left quite happy developing for free for Nokia's new breed of MeeGo machines on the commercially available and arguably misrepresented and missold development machine that the N900 is, the average end user might not be.
 
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#159
if Nokia dont make me ego work on Nokia n900 this is the last from me i swear not another Nokia phone ever
i will burn the three other Nokia phone (n900 classic6220 6280) i have switch to iPhone they 2g straight 4.0 firmware which is compatible to all iPhone
 
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if Nokia dont make me ego work on Nokia n900 this is the last from me i swear not another Nokia phone ever
i will burn the three other Nokia phone (n900 classic6220 6280) i have switch to iPhone they 2g straight 4.0 firmware which is compatible to all iPhone
instead of burn them, you could send them to me... I'll PM then my address to you
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