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no, I'm not. the only place I'm identified is at work if I arrive to early and have to use the RFID to disconnect the alarm, and at the ATM once in a while. I can swear I never passed a CCTV camera in the last month except the supermarket.
Also, no DNA database, no fingerprint (which means no passport thanks to the USA).
Also most CCTVs in other countries don't belong to the municipality or the Police, they are private, so it's harder for someone to access them,
while with IMEI they can track you wherever they want without even struggling.
Anyhow, I understand that in some countries is illegal, due to the amount of stolen phones, but there is a thin line between privacy and big brother theory, which is very dangerous. Exactly like Google Cookies
which can lead to another story like the one where AOL disclosed it's database of cookies, and CNN managed to track that person down even if it didn't had any personal data (name, Social security number etc)
plus in my country it's not illegal, so I should be able to change it.
Also, no DNA database, no fingerprint (which means no passport thanks to the USA).
Also most CCTVs in other countries don't belong to the municipality or the Police, they are private, so it's harder for someone to access them,
while with IMEI they can track you wherever they want without even struggling.
Anyhow, I understand that in some countries is illegal, due to the amount of stolen phones, but there is a thin line between privacy and big brother theory, which is very dangerous. Exactly like Google Cookies
which can lead to another story like the one where AOL disclosed it's database of cookies, and CNN managed to track that person down even if it didn't had any personal data (name, Social security number etc)plus in my country it's not illegal, so I should be able to change it.
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2010-04-08
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Originally Posted by UNderworld
There was a software I used (BB5) to debrand my brother's 5800. by altering the product code.. There was an option to change IMEI also, but I didnt want to risk it.
is there any software like this for the n900?
you probably used nemesis service siute... like i said... you CAN change the imei ... but you have to recalculate the securtyzones .... and this will be expensive...
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2010-04-08
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Originally Posted by emeni
nearly every town centre in UK is monitored by CCTV and control centres are run by the police or contracted to security firms to assist the police and local councils.
no, I'm not. the only place I'm identified is at work if I arrive to early and have to use the RFID to disconnect the alarm, and at the ATM once in a while. I can swear I never passed a CCTV camera in the last month except the supermarket.
Also, no DNA database, no fingerprint (which means no passport thanks to the USA).
Also most CCTVs in other countries don't belong to the municipality or the Police, they are private.
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2010-04-08
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Originally Posted by emeni
when i mentioned CCTV i was not talking about local supermarkets i was talking about public spaces,nearly every town centre in UK is monitored by CCTV and control centres are run by the police or contracted to security firms to assist the police and local councils.
no, I'm not. the only place I'm identified is at work if I arrive to early and have to use the RFID to disconnect the alarm, and at the ATM once in a while. I can swear I never passed a CCTV camera in the last month except the supermarket.
Also, no DNA database, no fingerprint (which means no passport thanks to the USA).
Also most CCTVs in other countries don't belong to the municipality or the Police, they are private.
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2010-04-08
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Originally Posted by NvyUs
UK != the World
nearly every town centre in UK is monitored by CCTV and control centres are run by the police or contracted to security firms to assist the police and local councils.
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2010-04-08
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Siva zona.
IMEI information is usualy paired with your IMSI and can be stored by your operator in order to identify you as a user of some device so they can customize their offers for device dependent value added services, or to protect themselfs against abuse of sims embedded in special hardware. Usually a history of IMSI-IMEI pairs is kept and it is posible to trace any change in hardware for a selected sim. Police could requst this info from operators if court so orders, but IMHO it is not a practice for tracing stolen phones. I guess investigation costs much more then a stolen phone, and such events unless they are organized crime, or similar issue, are not interesting to the police.
You would be amazed how many IMEI duplicates one can find in a single network, and I can't imagine all the reasons why this is so, but it renders them useless for unique identification.
If you know how to, and in dilema to change imei or not. Just don't. Your device could be identifed as something else, and change itself can be noticed.
IMEI information is usualy paired with your IMSI and can be stored by your operator in order to identify you as a user of some device so they can customize their offers for device dependent value added services, or to protect themselfs against abuse of sims embedded in special hardware. Usually a history of IMSI-IMEI pairs is kept and it is posible to trace any change in hardware for a selected sim. Police could requst this info from operators if court so orders, but IMHO it is not a practice for tracing stolen phones. I guess investigation costs much more then a stolen phone, and such events unless they are organized crime, or similar issue, are not interesting to the police.
You would be amazed how many IMEI duplicates one can find in a single network, and I can't imagine all the reasons why this is so, but it renders them useless for unique identification.
If you know how to, and in dilema to change imei or not. Just don't. Your device could be identifed as something else, and change itself can be noticed.
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2010-04-08
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Originally Posted by emeni
Yes, it is true.
The police can track you down only using your IMEI,
if they want to
Do they abuse it? hell yea, I know thousand of chases. I even abused the system asking a friend to track down someone, and my friend is at the low end of the chain of command.
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2010-04-08
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Changing the IMEI sounds as fishy as falsifying a motor vehicle's identification plate/vin.
Anyone smell a fish
Last edited by Astute; 2010-04-08 at 20:36.
Anyone smell a fish
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Originally Posted by nze
i've not thought that or implied that
UK != the World
i'm telling people how it is here in UK and correcting outsiders how it is here when they think its different.
i can hardly go on about the big brother state of somewhere else when i've never lived there, i can only tell about my own experiences in my own country
i'd rather people protest about DNA data base and CCTV and email data bases than about them knowing your IMEI
your phone is a choice you don't have to buy one but you DNA is in forever and if certain members of government in various countries get there way people will be put in DNA archives from birth
Last edited by NvyUs; 2010-04-08 at 19:55.