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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Ok. But Linux based means what exactly? That's the OS. Doesn't denote superior user experience as mentioned earlier.

So with that said. Concrete reasons. I already know it's Linux based.
Sorry for personal question.. how old you? I mean do you know/ remember history how Linux and Window has been born?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Ok. But Linux based means what exactly? That's the OS. Doesn't denote superior user experience as mentioned earlier.

So with that said. Concrete reasons. I already know it's Linux based.
I can compile my own software for it; pretty much any software I want and use on my desktop really. No learning curve for me because it's all the same software.

Sure.. there's an "app" for SSH and an "app" for IRC on both the iPhone and Android - but I have to learn them.

On this, it's the same CLI SSH I use on my Desktop; and it's the same XChat I use on my desktop.

I wrote my own software (never released, never cared enough) for Android that pulled like TFLN (texts from last night) feeds and such. I hate Java, I hated the Dev environment (mostly because I hate Java..).

I actually enjoyed writing pyPianobar. Before the N900 I knew Ruby, Perl, PHP, etc.. but never really got into Python. This prompted me to learn a new language that I knew I could actually use somewhere outside just the phone.

So FOR ME.. I can claim the N900 is the best phone.

Don't get me wrong; nothing against Android (and still recommend it to most people) - but for me the N900 shines where no other phone comes close.
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Originally Posted by devu View Post
Sorry for personal question.. how old you? I mean do you know/ remember history how Linux and Window has been born?
I'm 35. I've been a Linux user for 16 years, programmer for 20 years.

Now... you were saying? I don't quite think it is you that gets my question.

Allow me to clarify.

What exactly about the N900 makes it better than the other phones out there, from your perspective? The OS does not denote a superior user experience in terms of a telephone. I would never answer my phone via the terminal. Nice to be potentially be able to do so; but I doubt that I would - for instance.

And as a person that's used a N900, I was asking [b]that person[b] why did he say it was superior (paraphrase)? I was curious about that users opinion... not the current condescending tone I've somehow received from you.

Thank you in advance.

And thank you Fatalsaint for your clear answer. I appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Why did you register just to announce this?

I don't get this attention seeking nonsense

Point of reference: right here

I hate to inject a tad bit of seriousness into this love-fest; however if a person that's commiserating is met with such disregard, why not the opposite? I mean, it's all just an attention seeking gesture showing approval, just like the threads that show disapproval of the Nokia N900.

This thread is the opposite of this thread... yet look at the tone.

Don't worry... I know my place. I'm the one that says the unpopular things...
It is not precisely the opposite of the other thread; you are dead wrong.

In the other thread there is no possibility of progression because the poster does not own any products we discuss here. In this thread an owner announces his presence and there is every prospect of a continuing association with him.

In addition, the opinions expressed in the other thread could not be challenged. For example, the user stated that he could not send MMS messages. You could not suggest that he try fMMS because he had nothing to try it with.

This user CAN be challenged. You could say "yeah, you say it works great, but can you do x"

So the other posting was close to pointless and this one is not.
 

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Originally Posted by DrSteve View Post
I'm very happy with mine as well. I did a great deal of research on the N900 before the purchase, and it's really paid off. I have a very specific set of requirements, including the ability to develop software for the device easily, and all my needs are being met. I'm really enjoying qole's Easy Debian project, which opens the N900 up to a ton of apps in debian-armel. Who needs the app store? I can run OpenOffice!
Question for you. Does the Easy Debian run pretty well? How long is the boot time? How long to open up Open Office after boot?

Curious. I am happy with my N900, but haven't studied Easy Debian yet. Would just like the real world biased opinion of a user.

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I'm 35. I've been a Linux user for 16 years, programmer for 20 years.

Now... you were saying? I don't quite think it is you that gets my question.

Allow me to clarify.

What exactly about the N900 makes it better than the other phones out there, from your perspective? The OS does not denote a superior user experience in terms of a telephone. I would never answer my phone via the terminal. Nice to be potentially be able to do so; but I doubt that I would - for instance.

And as a person that's used a N900, I was asking [b]that person[b] why did he say it was superior (paraphrase)? I was curious about that users opinion... not the current condescending tone I've somehow received from you.

Thank you in advance.

And thank you Fatalsaint for your clear answer. I appreciate it.
Thank you too for introduce yourself.
My assumption was you asking me tricky question based on post you usually has written. I am only human as you and might be wrong.

But please give me something to understand why guy like you with such a experience with Linux asking me (linux noob) this kind of questions pointing out every my world when there is opportunity to do that. I really don't understand that guy like you can't see this potential as I (Linux noob) can see. Is only my impression or I feel big torsion from the day you first time answered under my post? Let's fix this bug

And I bet you must be the author of many applications here with such experience you have?
 
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Originally Posted by devu View Post
Thank you too for introduce yourself.
Thank you, but I've long introduced myself. The search function still works last I checked.

My assumption was you asking me tricky question based on post you usually has written. I am only human as you and might be wrong.
It's not a tricky question. Real reasons and/or opinion was what I was after. I got it from fatalsaint, a person I've grown to admire and trust, in terms of opinions, et al. Which... apparently you've still not offered somehow. Why is that?

But please give me something to understand why guy like you with such a experience with Linux asking me (linux noob) this kind of questions pointing out every my world when there is opportunity to do that.
I wasn't asking you, I was asking the person I quoted. You jumped in, never answered how it was superior quite yet. So... in essence, why did you answer a person you have no recollection of who they might be and with such disregard?

And I bet you must be the author of many applications here with such experience you have?
None. What about yourself?
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
It's not a tricky question. Real reasons and/or opinion was what I was after. I got it from fatalsaint, a person I've grown to admire and trust, in terms of opinions, et al. Which... apparently you've still not offered somehow. Why is that?
I was hoping by giving my answer.. people might have seen what you were after.

Guess not .
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
I was hoping by giving my answer.. people might have seen what you were after.

Guess not .
No worries mate. I truly appreciate your answer and honestly, I had not thought of it in the terms you use it, so I learned a new perspective.

But it seems like it's "Jump on Gerbick" today... oh well. I'll just put off that N900 purchase for one more week now
 
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Gebrick,

You are trolling many threads today. Take your own advice and be constructive, heck, even positive. If you feel that you are indeed being constructive and positive, please understand that it does not read like that.

Buy the N900, discover it first hand. Chances are that after a few weeks of frustration and struggle you will find out what is so good about it, I did. Or you will not... and there will be yet another post about N900 being junk etc., but at least then it will be an opinion based on your own experience with it.

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