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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by Blaxe
did that make any sense?
anybody of you ever checked where the greeks get ther damn warfare stuff from? nobody? make a guess!
germany and france! even the thought of blaming greek public for "spending the money" is ridiculous! but blaming public ist the political way for solving problems! turn off the light when leaving the room to stop global warming! facepalm
(I'm a german tax-payer btw)
is greece forced to buy warfare stuff? -no
would greece have bought warfare stuff elsewhere if
a) price and b) functionality is sufficient? -yes
who elects the politicians who decide about money spending etc?
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by ossipena
ever thought about cyprus? imho they don't need it, but greek politicians decide that, not me
did that make any sense? is greece forced to buy warfare stuff? -no
Originally Posted by ossipena
no they wouldn't, cause germany and france do not only sell the stuff but also the money, so the greeks are bound to germany and france if they want to go on financing their depths.
would greece have bought warfare stuff elsewhere if
a) price and b) functionality is sufficient? -yes
Originally Posted by ossipena
it's such a pity that most of the people in germany use their right to elect to clean their *** instead of kicking the right asses
who elects the politicians who decide about money spending etc?
(writing posts on n900 is really great btw)
Last edited by Blaxe; 2010-05-06 at 07:55.
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by Blaxe
that is only greeces fault. they have messed their things up, no need to try rolling the blame to somewhere else.
no they wouldn't, cause germany and france do not only sell the stuff but also the money, so the greeks are bound to germany and france if they want to go on financing their depths.
it's such a pity that most of the people in germany use their right to elect to clean their *** instead of kicking the right asses
(writing posts on n900 is really great btw)
whose *** should then be kicked? you are concidering greece as a baby child, aren't you?
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by ossipena
no i won't consider greece as a baby child. european politicians (especially germ. fra.) *** should be kicked cause we gave the greek politicians the chance to buy our "products" cheap without taxes (we let them get into eu while knowing that their statistics are messed up) and lend them a whole lot of money. we benefitet from that, industry profits pushed the national economy. and now we get what we deserve. and what do we do to solve the problem? right! another bailout....
that is only greeces fault. they have messed their things up, no need to try rolling the blame to somewhere else.
whose *** should then be kicked? you are concidering greece as a baby child, aren't you?
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2010-05-06
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Guys taken from BBC
"On Planet Greece, some civil servants get a bonus for turning up to work on time. Foresters get a bonus for working outdoors. At least they show up.
There are civil servants called ghost workers because they never go into the office, head to a second job and still claim a state salary. They can't get sacked, because a civil service post is for life. Unless the incumbent decides to retire in his or her forties, with a pension.
And the government can continue paying for the afterlife. Unmarried and divorced daughters of civil servants are entitled to collect their dead parents pensions. Another lucrative sinecure is to belong to a state committee. The government has no idea how many there are.
It has been estimated that they have 10,000 employees and cost nearly £200m a year, and that includes the committee to manage a lake that dried up 80 years ago."
"On Planet Greece, some civil servants get a bonus for turning up to work on time. Foresters get a bonus for working outdoors. At least they show up.
There are civil servants called ghost workers because they never go into the office, head to a second job and still claim a state salary. They can't get sacked, because a civil service post is for life. Unless the incumbent decides to retire in his or her forties, with a pension.
And the government can continue paying for the afterlife. Unmarried and divorced daughters of civil servants are entitled to collect their dead parents pensions. Another lucrative sinecure is to belong to a state committee. The government has no idea how many there are.
It has been estimated that they have 10,000 employees and cost nearly £200m a year, and that includes the committee to manage a lake that dried up 80 years ago."
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2010-05-06
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This whole issue really underlies the fundamental flaws in the EU. Brussels are unhappy that the German government won't just play ball and cough up. Democracy [the majority of the German public] getting in the way again!
Why can't the French, Dutch, Belgians, etc cough up the money?
I really feel sorry for the Germans and the fact they are going to have to stomach this. Be clear as well that this is not a loan.
If the UK was in the Euro we'd be paying in as well. I'm pretty sure we are anyway really (through things like the CAP).
UKIP at the polls anyone?
Why can't the French, Dutch, Belgians, etc cough up the money?
I really feel sorry for the Germans and the fact they are going to have to stomach this. Be clear as well that this is not a loan.
If the UK was in the Euro we'd be paying in as well. I'm pretty sure we are anyway really (through things like the CAP).
UKIP at the polls anyone?
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2010-05-06
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hell yeah but they are going to spent 6,7 billion euro for weapons this year! and nobody stopped the greeks while spending all the money, for weapons, but also for public!
instead of that we are all very surprised and angry!?!
instead of that we are all very surprised and angry!?!
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by Blaxe
did they really know that statics are messed up?
no i won't consider greece as a baby child. european politicians (especially germ. fra.) *** should be kicked cause we gave the greek politicians the chance to buy our "products" cheap without taxes (we let them get into eu while knowing that their statistics are messed up) and lend them a whole lot of money. we benefitet from that, industry profits pushed the national economy. and now we get what we deserve. and what do we do to solve the problem? right! another bailout....
as far as I know there were people from USA who played "creative accounting" -game with Greece closed doors...
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2010-05-06
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Originally Posted by cashclientel
Germany has biggest surplus plus probably biggest risks with their banks & Greece.
This whole issue really underlies the fundamental flaws in the EU. Brussels are unhappy that the German government won't just play ball and cough up. Democracy [the majority of the German public] getting in the way again!
Why can't the French, Dutch, Belgians, etc cough up the money?
I really feel sorry for the Germans and the fact they are going to have to stomach this. Be clear as well that this is not a loan.
If the UK was in the Euro we'd be paying in as well. I'm pretty sure we are anyway really (through things like the CAP).
UKIP at the polls anyone?
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germany and france! even the thought of blaming greek public for "spending the money" is ridiculous! but blaming public ist the political way for solving problems! turn off the light when leaving the room to stop global warming! facepalm
(I'm a german tax-payer btw)