Originally Posted by ysss

I would've considered your post to be positive and constructive if it wasn't betrayed by that part in bold.

Originally Posted by woody14619

No, it's my idea... But I was inspired to re-think how I was handling threads like this based on his input, and felt it was right to give credit where credit was due.

Did you read the other thread yet? Did you see the smiley? Just because I'm being constructive doesn't mean I can't make a tongue-in-cheek joke on occasion. Let out your belt a knotch and relax a little. It's not like someone's driving...

Originally Posted by Parody

Tried out, it didn't pick up any dust or anything.
I think they used a static resistant screen, considering that they also made it transreflective.

Originally Posted by devu

That's fine, as long as some points are not your subjective opinion

Well I have tried to not put in any subjective opinions. Anything others have said is subjective I will remove. For example I am going to remove the fact it has three rows of keys. I did not list it to say three was worse than four or five or anything else. Just to show potential buyers that well typing words and numbers ain't as easy as they may think.

Why your own perception suppose to be the common opinion? Just let's discus things here. Customer ca read about issues and later personal subjective feelings. Rather other way around.

How did I suggest that? Why I put that in is something which was very common when I first got the N900 (and I was one of the very first other than the 300 testers). Someone would say they have an issue and a fanboy would reply and say I don't have that issue so you have a defective device. Until more and more people posted here and it became obvious it was not a one off (actually it should have been obvious to any objective person.

I disagree do a wiki base on one person subjective opinion only
As I said, let's discus about each point and find the consensus.

As I have said I have tried to keep any subjective opinions out and will be deleted the three rows of keys point.

Whatever I will write down under your post it's my experience and opinion only!



Hardware



I agree with you but I don't like the screen protector because cause issue you pointed out later.



I believe it's true.



true, but compare to what... screen keyboard or devices that have 4 rows. Is not cool for me only when I have to press 1 because buttons fn and 1 are close to each other and is not handy when you keeping your device on the way. However if designers/developers here doing some pass with numeric field in mind usually number mode is as default.
I didn't expect this same experience as on PC keyboard, I know some devices are better but hardware keyboard is good enough for me and refer to size of the buttons and how they functioning it's just perfect.

Have discussed this twice above but thanks for the input.

Battery



I am using 4 at the moment. With all additional handy apps helping me keep aye on power consumption. When I am not using my N900 to much, just reciveing emails every 5 minutes, some messages via conversation bluetooth turned off etc etc. 2 days, yes 48h.

Pretty much sleep mode but I keep my emails and conversation running.
If I can add internet browsing quickly check some address, receiving calls, 4-5 per day 10min each, 24h.

Using N900 extensively non stop 6h.
However I was surprised yesterday with leaked 1.2. last time I had appointment, so, get to the tube listening to the music, gps overground to find location, some internet browsing to find some client related websites. My battery with from 80% goes dead after 3h journey, Yes GPS with current OVI map was harm. Yesterday similar journey this time with improved OVi map. from 90% to 80% within 1 hour, pretty much the same activity.

2 days. Wow. You are lucky. However, I think it is widely agreed that IMs drain the battery significantly. But will change to say some do not experience this battery drain.

Interface/Operating System



Yes I have read about this



Screen protector? or ridiculous amount of widgets and shortcuts on the screen? Or both.
For me no issues. Each screen represent some section for me, Phone/Conversation, Daily use apps, Entertainment, Contact Shortcuts/ Bookmarks. Smooth and pretty. (Stock 600Mhz) I had screen protector for 3 days. I removed it quicker than guys showing it on demo movies . It will completely destroy your enjoyment of the touch screen.

To be honest I have the jerkyness whether with or without screen protector and whether I have absolutely nothing on the screen. But the first post is edited anyway to say depends on what you have on. Maybe will edit further to say not smooth for some.

See above. To addition to that, Because I am enjoying smooth screen I am also enjoying the fact I need to go from 1 to 4

Lol

no experienced

Well others have said this. Maybe you have just not noticed. Try it out. Play a song. Let the screen go to sleep and the next song start playing. Wake the screen up. What info does it show initially? The details of the last playing song or the current playing song? It shows the details of the last playing song briefly and then jumps to the now playing. Should not be like that - never experienced it on any other device and don't even think it is like that on N97.

I am not linux expert, simple logic saying me don't tap like crazy everywhere. Sometimes it's getting stuck, that's true. Are you clicking like crazy when your home machine will get stuck? I know many ppl do like that.

Not tapping anything like crazy. Point is not as snappy as other devices. And this is a particular issue professional review sites put Nokia down for when they review Nokia touch screen devices. So it is not a personal opinion. Simply just not as snappy as iphone and I suspect the Palm Pre and the new HTCs (which all have multi tasking so that is not the issue).

no experienced



hmm, guys you really need to tweak transitions a bit or let people remove it.



true, regarding to the fact N900 was intended to be internet tablet line continuation.

Maps/Navigation



Yes old Ovi maps is horrible, leaked 1.2 MUCH more better.

Ovi Store



true, but personally i don't miss Ovi store since I've got all i need in App manager.

Media Player


no experienced



true



true, I understand it can be issue for drag and drop lovers.



No worries new PR will make you happy here



No worries new PR will make you happy here



Settings, interval, everything works for me, I am using 2 accounts And actually I am thinking to slow it down because bubbles became nightmare and annoying thing.

Phone


Can with app

Thanks. Was not aware. Will amend to reflect this.


For me it;s cool, one view, icon saying what happened, label beside who.
Would be nice to have additional options to filter this, But as general list I like it. You have full view for history.

Well for me it is an annoyance not having any other option. There is extended call log app to show things the way I want (and the way I am used to from 10 years of Nokia phoned) but the app is kinda pointless cause it just shows the log. You can't call or text from the numbers on the log.


I know you asked ppl here do not point out this, I have right to speak what I feel about my phone etc. Every one have I think. And you see how different opinion and experience can be. And I don't think that any body here opinion should be THE ONE. But general view that all of us agree it's wrong. Also intentionally I was talking about 1.2 because will show you Nokia didn't let us die with this state. They keep improving things. And I am glad to see this even on leaked PR. In my opinion it should be one general topic for this, I agree that was good idea and I am going to thank you for this. But should be done by moderator and base on many ppl opinions get the most repeatable/common issues rather than subjective opinions.

You keep on talking as if everything I have put down is personal opinion. Be more specific. The only thing that can be said is personal opinion is the smoothness of scrolling and the 3 keyboard layout. Everything else does not in anyway strike me as personal opinion. Feel free to enlighten me. By the way there is a huge difference between personal opinion and something that does not affect my personal device. So it may be personal opinion whether or not three or four rows of keys is a good thing. It is not personal opinion if I say some N900s randomly restart even if it has or has not happened to me. Also please bear in mind the purpose of this list. It is to make buyers aware of anything which could be an issue. For you the call log is fine. For a person coming from symbian it is not. It is for them to decide if they can do with the way the call log is. This is not something they will get from reading reviews but may be a big issue. Thus it appears on the list. You see what I mean?

Once Again, whatever I said here it's ONLY my PERSONAL opinion same as Author of this thread.

Originally Posted by woody14619

One request I do have to the OP: Could you please change the language about "3rd party apps", or at least note that when you say that phrase you are talking mainly about free apps? Most people see the phrase "3rd party apps" and are conditioned to think they are apps they would need to pay something to get.

For example, fMMS is a free app that anyone can install from extras-testing (hopefully soon in extras). Calling it a 3rd party app, which technically correct, could make people just looking into the N900 think they have to pay for an app to do MMS.

Originally Posted by etuoyo

I have bolded my replies below.

Originally Posted by Helmuth

Here is a big issue for me in the Adressbook:
It's impossible to rename the description of the numbers from a person in the adressbook. At example to write down: "old phone" or "used only at the weekend", "employer Number 1", "employer Number 2" or "T-Mobile account" - simple to differentiate the mobile numbers if a person has more than one of the same type. At Symbian phones this worked since years.

There were several pruposals how this could get fixed at the Maemo Bugs and at Brainstorm, but they were all blocked or ignored.

Add 5 times the same person with different number causes many other problems and confusion. Thats a ugly unworking "workaround".