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Originally Posted by chaoscreater View Post
Satio sucks. Trust me, i've used and owned pretty much all the types of mobile phones there are, I currently have:

Iphone 3GS
Sony Ericsson W950i (Symbian UIQ3)
Nokia N900 (Maemo 5)
HTC Touch Pro (Windows Mobile 6.5)


So i'd like to say this first, my opinion is unbiased. Anyway, Sony Ericsson's Symbian UIQ3 is now a dead technology, yes it's now open source but it sucked. I tweaked and customized my W950i to the max, i.e hacking it to gain file access to the root etc etc.....same with my HTC Touch Pro, i installed a custom WM 6.5 rom whereas a normal stock version will only be on WM 6.0.

My point is, Sony Ericsson is dying, now it's using Windows Mobile on most of their high end devices, and Satio is just pure crap.

Get the N900, it has more potential and is way more powerful.
Well as for hardware power goes there about the same both have 600mhz arm cortex a8, I think they both have 400mhz 3d accelerator, and they both have 256mb of ram. However the Sony Ericsson Satio would because of 12mp camera with xenon flash vs 5mp camera with dual led flash and records video at better quality and framerate. The Nokia n900 would win because of 32gb of internal memory vs something like 256mb with 8gb microsd card also n900 has a physical keyboard which is a nice touch look a little cramped for my taste but better than onscreen qwerty. Mostly hardware is equal n900 wins because of more storage and Satio wins because of a better camera. Also n900 has 768mb swap file.
 
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#112
I will certainly get the Nokia n900 looks like a great phone. Also the n900 is a better value so that will be a reason for me.
 
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#113
I'd personally wait for the n8, if you were even considering the Satio then I suspect that having a mobile geek pad (which the n900 awesomely fulfils) is not your #1 priority.

The N8 will have a good camera, HDMI out (!), and a slick looking mature OS

The N8 will be a better camera phone with features, the N900 would be a better mobile linux computer / hackmachine
 
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Originally Posted by meep View Post
I'd personally wait for the n8, if you were even considering the Satio then I suspect that having a mobile geek pad (which the n900 awesomely fulfils) is not your #1 priority.

The N8 will have a good camera, HDMI out (!), and a slick looking mature OS

The N8 will be a better camera phone with features, the N900 would be a better mobile linux computer / hackmachine
the Nokia n900 is more of what I am looking for. Also is there an alternative to Nokia Pc suite that would allow me full filesystem access on the Nokia n900. By the way I use ubuntu.
 
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I would say the Nokia n8 looks very nice but I don't like how it uses a capacitive touchscreen because I like to use a stylus. Also I would say the n8 a has edge over the Satio I will wait to see if Nokia doesn't release another disaster like the Nokia n97.
 
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Originally Posted by railroadmaster View Post
Well as for hardware power goes there about the same both have 600mhz arm cortex a8, I think they both have 400mhz 3d accelerator, and they both have 256mb of ram. However the Sony Ericsson Satio would because of 12mp camera with xenon flash vs 5mp camera with dual led flash and records video at better quality and framerate. The Nokia n900 would win because of 32gb of internal memory vs something like 256mb with 8gb microsd card also n900 has a physical keyboard which is a nice touch look a little cramped for my taste but better than onscreen qwerty. Mostly hardware is equal n900 wins because of more storage and Satio wins because of a better camera. Also n900 has 768mb swap file.
You forget that N900 wins because of the OS is way better than Satio S60v5 customised! N900 wins hands down to the higher screen resolution and software! Also with Linux power ... list goes on!


I would say the Nokia n8 looks very nice but I don't like how it uses a capacitive touchscreen because I like to use a stylus. Also I would say the n8 a has edge over the Satio I will wait to see if Nokia doesn't release another disaster like the Nokia n97.

ummmm.... N8 looks terible in term of design but atleast it has usb OTG!! and HDMI!! Better camera, and more sensitive screen. Multitouch!!

Last edited by maxximuscool; 2010-06-03 at 21:22.
 
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
You forget that N900 wins because of the OS is way better than Satio S60v5 customised! N900 wins hands down to the higher screen resolution and software! Also with Linux power ... list goes on!





ummmm.... N8 looks terible in term of design but atleast it has usb OTG!! and HDMI!! Better camera, and more sensitive screen. Multitouch!!
I like the Sony Ericsson Satio's interface and the n900's. Also software wise both devices are about even Satio wins because of more apps, much phone feaures, and nicer interface, the Nokia n900 wins because of cool linux os, makes you think it is a computer in your pocket, and hackability. Off topic I would also consider the Palm Pre a mobile computer.
 
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Well.. I was just like you.
A hard decision between satio and N900. Based on this conversation, I've chose N900.
Well, you probably already got your phone, but I'll post here my experience to help other people that stil didn't.
I don't know Satio in deep, as I just played a little bit with one on a phone store. So I don't really know if I made the right choice, but here it goes what I *really* hated about n900:

- Its very, very heavy! It wants to be remembered it's on your pocket every minute! Its also quite thick. I think I would get used with it, but I still don't.

- There is no "portrait" mode. Everything needs to be done in a "landscape" mode. Because of this, you need to operate it with both hands. This becomes very unhandy on everyday usage.

- Media player (a must-have for me, specially for audio)
1. Don't have an equalizer. You read it right. You paid $400~500 for a device that don't have a equalizer. (yes, I know there is a workaround with some dude's mp-renderer replace, but this dont work at all. your device gets freezy and even higher on cpu load)
2. There are no physical playback buttons. If you are walking with the phone in your pocket and you want to skip/ replay/ stop the playback, you need to take the device off, unlock it, wait it to become responsive and press "next". Its a fast 7 or 8 steps to skip a track. Oh yeah, you will need both hands!
If you're not using the official media player, the volume keys also don't work after phone gets locked.
3. The media player widget "play" button stops working. (Yes, I am on 1.2Pr firmware. It's still buggy.) It also takes about 3 or 4 seconds to open the media player app from the widget.
4. Depending on the codec, the video don't run smooth. (Thats no big deal for me, as I dont want to watch movies on a phone).
5. You notice that audio playback is a very heavy task for the N900 to deal. I don't know n900 hardware/maemo os in deep. I belive there is a "higher level" framework to deal with audio that punishes the cpu.

- FM radio is something special. Its an analog (radiowave receiver) to digital (digital audio) to analog (earphone). That makes the device laggy, battery eater and the audio still keeps freezing. Yeah, when you listen FM radio!
Plus, volume keys don't work for FM radio with device locked.
Also, the Fm application made by some guy is not well designed (It searches for every 1kHz step, when actually station frequencies are set 10k or 20k from each other. This makes the app to find "incorrect" frequencies for the radio stations. I'm not blaming the developer, as he made a favor for the comunity.


- It's laggy when you receive a call, or alarm, or some reminder.
You keep tapping "Answer!" "Answer!" "Answer!" and the phone is still ringing.
Also, if you are on that meeting and the phone starts to ring, with my old K800 I just press the volume button and it stops ringing while still waits for me to answer the call. This gives me time to identify who is calling me, and to think if I'm going to answer it or not.
With N900, It keeps ringing and ringing, while I'm desperately tapping "busy!" "busy!". Thats awful.

- The battery is a disaster. You are lucky if you get more than 24hours (no phone calls) with the phone still running. Don't come suggesting to turn the wireless off or disable 3G internet. If I would't use internet on this phone. I would keep my old K800!

- The camera (although I've seen comments over the internet saying the opposite) is not good, specially under low light conditions. I was expecting at least a more sensitive sensor. My old K800 still makes better photos.

- There aren't many basic functionality that you would find on a $50 phone.

The good apects are: Excelent display quality (impressive resolution), the OS is well designed and flexible. The integrated conversation (sms, messengers), and the voip are well done.
Also the web browser, that can do everything a computer browser can, in a small size.
Altought you get many open-source applications available, you won't find professional, mature applications for this phone.

The impression is that it's software is still pretty imature. (beta).
The lack of many well thinked details makes me not to like this phone as I think I would.

ps: I know my english sucks. I'm sorry about that. I hope the idea get transmitted.
Every 5 minutes I remember one more thing about N900 that pisses me off.. This list won't end up so soon...

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Have you considered the MILESTONE XT720?
 
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Originally Posted by imperiallight View Post
Have you considered the MILESTONE XT720?
Motorola sucks end of discussion. From the reviews I've seen the processor is underclocked 550mhz and there is usually only 50mb of ram available. Motorola has a tendency to crap on there, phones which aren't that good to begin with. Besides Motorola lost its business to European and Asian Manufacturers who know how make phones better then at cheaper prices. I already decided on a Nokia n900 to use as a portable Linux box and and MyTouch 3g Slide to use as a phone.
 
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