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2007-08-25
, 20:12
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#82
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Originally Posted by penguinbait
Penquinbait: You should try the MMC plus (or whatever the name was...) patch for the latest firmware that appered to have solved this problem for me. I have had no corruption issues since then... but YMMW...
Well, I took my unusable 8GB card, put in in winxp and copied 7GB to it without a problem, when in my nokia, it craps everytime I try to copy any large amounts of data to it.
This problem lies squarely with Nokia, I am in a pickle now. Do I downgrade to lower firmware to save/use my SD card. If I do my touchscreen did not work properly on the last firmware, but at least it did not eat my card.
QA QA QA QA QA
Nokia, hire some people who can actually QA these things, it appears there is no testing done before the release. I have to believe if they had run the new firmware for a week or two, they would have experienced the same issues.
ITS CRAAAAP!!!
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2007-08-25
, 20:22
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#83
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Originally Posted by penguinbait
Did you look at bug 1204? Nokia devs still aren't able to reproduce these Problems!
Nokia, hire some people who can actually QA these things, it appears there is no testing done before the release. I have to believe if they had run the new firmware for a week or two, they would have experienced the same issues.
Last official comment from Eero Tamminen (Comment #64) doesn't sound very optimistic. I don't think that we will get a fix soon. Perhaps the sucessor of the N800 won't have these issues
Eero wrote:
There are some indications that the corruption could happen also when card is
really properly synced/unmounted, but so far there's no repeatable test case
for this so that it could be debugged.
I don't think there's yet enough evidence (cards) to point out that the new
release would be worse in this respect than the previous one.
And it seems that there are enough other people which can reproduce this card corruption again and again! There are still too few people which are complaining about this problem in the bug report! The communication between Nokia and the endusers is still very bad!
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2007-08-25
, 21:55
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#84
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Just fried my second SD card! This was 4GB non-SDHC card in internal slot. The firmware is latest stock firmware. This occured in my SECOND N800 device that I got about a month ago. What this proves that it is not only some certain N800's that have this problem. (Or I was very unlucky to get two devices that have this issue!)
What I was doing I just copied my MaemoMapper files from PC to N800 using USB cable. In the middle of the process Windows gave error saying the destination folder can not be found... Sure enough the memory card was greyed out in N800 file manager. Rebooting N800 and removing reinserting the card does not make it visible. I tried it also in my external USB-SD card reader that does not recognize it either!!!
Nokia: Are you listening???
What I was doing I just copied my MaemoMapper files from PC to N800 using USB cable. In the middle of the process Windows gave error saying the destination folder can not be found... Sure enough the memory card was greyed out in N800 file manager. Rebooting N800 and removing reinserting the card does not make it visible. I tried it also in my external USB-SD card reader that does not recognize it either!!!
Nokia: Are you listening???
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2007-08-25
, 22:06
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@ "Almost there!" (Monte Christo, Count of)
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#85
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No, it's like this you see: As long as Nokia can play the denial card (and I don't mean that river in Egypt), they cannot be held legally responsible for all those destroyed cards.
The moment they release a fix, they're game for a doosy of a class action suit. At least, that's what the zombie lawyers in Nokia's head office claim.
So when Nokia says: "We cannot reproduce that alleged bug", they're really saying: "F*ck you user! We're not going to pay your fried card! Ha ha ha!"
The moment they release a fix, they're game for a doosy of a class action suit. At least, that's what the zombie lawyers in Nokia's head office claim.
So when Nokia says: "We cannot reproduce that alleged bug", they're really saying: "F*ck you user! We're not going to pay your fried card! Ha ha ha!"
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2007-08-25
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#86
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Are all these card fry-ups related to usb file transfers? If so, I couldn't care much about the bug: I never use usb file transfer with my tablet.
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2007-08-25
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#87
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Nope... the first card fried when in "normal" use. I was using MaemoMapper. In fact the most memory card corruptions (which were able to fix by reformatting card) happened in "normal" use. I have not seen pattern showing USB transfers being more "frying" than normal use of the card.
Are all these card fry-ups related to usb file transfers? If so, I couldn't care much about the bug: I never use usb file transfer with my tablet.
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2007-08-25
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#88
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it has nothing to do with the means of transfer. it has nothing to do with the brand/size/SDHC-or-SD capacity.
it has everything to do with sh1tty developers, sh1tty QA, and the firmware.
it has everything to do with sh1tty developers, sh1tty QA, and the firmware.
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Nokia n800
OS 2008
Pharos iGPS 360-BT
ElmScan 5 BlueTooth
BlackBerry Bold (9000)
AT&T Wireless
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2007-08-27
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#89
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To me it does seem to have something to do with the capacity though. Lots of reports about 'no problems with my old 1GB SD card'. Obviously 1GB SD cards are usually also of some older manufacturing type, which may have something to do with it (different voltages or whatever). I'm still using my (problem-free) 1GB cards, I hope to be able to go to an internal 32GB SDHC at some stage but before that can happen this corruption issue must be resolved.
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2007-08-27
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#90
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I have both my 8GB and 2GB cards working again.
I used fdisk to delete all partitions, had to do this twice in a row on the 8GB card to make it stick.
Put the cards is Windows XP, created partitions (1 on each) and formatted them with FAT32.
Tested them in windows, reliably held data
Tested them in Nokia, and they seem to be working fine.
I used dd to create about a 2GB filesystem on the fat32 partition.
dd if=/dev/zero of=2_GB_file bs=1000000 count=1900
mkfs.ext2 /media/mmc1/2_GB_file
mount -o loop /media/mmc1/2_GB_file /usr/local
everything seems to be working great, although I can not make a ext2 partiton on FAT32 bigger than 2GB
I have been hesitant to try ext2 on them again right now, I am in the middle of trying to package up XFCE, and this is working for me :-)
I used fdisk to delete all partitions, had to do this twice in a row on the 8GB card to make it stick.
Put the cards is Windows XP, created partitions (1 on each) and formatted them with FAT32.
Tested them in windows, reliably held data
Tested them in Nokia, and they seem to be working fine.
I used dd to create about a 2GB filesystem on the fat32 partition.
dd if=/dev/zero of=2_GB_file bs=1000000 count=1900
mkfs.ext2 /media/mmc1/2_GB_file
mount -o loop /media/mmc1/2_GB_file /usr/local
everything seems to be working great, although I can not make a ext2 partiton on FAT32 bigger than 2GB
I have been hesitant to try ext2 on them again right now, I am in the middle of trying to package up XFCE, and this is working for me :-)
This problem lies squarely with Nokia, I am in a pickle now. Do I downgrade to lower firmware to save/use my SD card. If I do my touchscreen did not work properly on the last firmware, but at least it did not eat my card.
QA QA QA QA QA
Nokia, hire some people who can actually QA these things, it appears there is no testing done before the release. I have to believe if they had run the new firmware for a week or two, they would have experienced the same issues.
ITS CRAAAAP!!!