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2007-09-12 , 03:22
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Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, but the debate (to a lesser degree) has spread outside the NIT community. There's a very short, incomplete comparison between the iPod Touch and the N800 over on Ars: Link

Not very in depth or informative, but it has sparked a growing conversation on the subject in the forums.
 
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2007-09-12 , 04:21
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I'm thinking the cancerous "debate" might give Nokia more publicity than it's ready for.

Originally Posted by poster in the other forum
This review touched on the open vs. closed nature of the devices, but fails to mention the upshot: more software for the Nokia. It has email, RSS, IM and VOIP clients. Not to mention a pretty great media player with considerably broader format support. Bluetooth connectivity is open, so external keyboards, GPS receivers and stereo audio output all work.

What the Nokia does not have is the focused marketing of Apple and the flashy GUI. But I'll trade that for a working SSH client any day.
Another guy Gets It. How many of us does that make now? 3? 4?
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2007-09-12 , 04:54
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#273
Don't go there...

There are plenty of other posts in that article which reiterate the same points many have made in this thread, which is that the Apple products appeal more to the general consumer because Apple pays more attention to overall design of the device, ensuring everything about it is to a high standard. The general consumer does not care about SSH, or a super-dooper high resolution display... ease of use, high quality UI, the "cool" factor, even price are things that matter to the general consumer and these are things the N800 lacks.

How many of us does that make? I reckon we'll be talking at least a million by Christmas, easy.
 
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2007-09-12 , 05:10
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Mil, I don't think too many people are arguing the contrasts. It's the silly comparisons here that are arguable. The laughable "both products are virtually identical and occuply the exact same market segment" claims. The "Apple's products will stop production of N800s" remarks.

I read every comment in the other forum and for the most part they were well thought-out. A few small technical errors made by some, quickly corrected, and (here's the shocking part) no real nastiness or chest-thumping. Amazing.

Oh, and I've come to understand that the promotional activity (or lack thereof) around the N800 is deliberate. Before anyone leaps to labeling that as stupid (as I have previously), there's also some sound reasoning behind it. But that's because they're different products with different goals.
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2007-09-12 , 05:48
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#275
LOL, let's rename this thread to "The Highlander Contest: In the End, There Can Only be One".

No one is actually listening and processing the discussion seriously, it's just a yelling contest. The winner is the most persistent one pushing his view and repeating the same message over and over.

iball seems to be in the lead by a fair margin

I'm out.

PS: Yes, you can have your petty last word over me, cause I'm not replying...
 
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2007-09-12 , 05:58
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Off with his ^ head!
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2007-09-12 , 11:52
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I only hope for the best with the N800, and I also hope that Nokia proves me wrong. It's all potential now, but with some luck they'll start polishing what we have so far. They have it in them.

We have a wonderful community, minus a few loudmouths. I hate that I brought negativity, but I only get emotional because of my love for the IT and the open-source doodooheads. /hug ITT I'll check back with ya'll after a firmware or two
 
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2007-09-12 , 12:53
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Originally Posted by iball View Post
Show me where Apple has done ANYTHING to promote free and open source software outside of giving away Xcode on the Mac OS X install DVD?
Oh, c'mon, this is just too easy: WebKit.

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2007-09-12 , 13:31
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Oh, c'mon, this is just too easy: WebKit.

Darwin - oh, damn, that's another.
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Originally Posted by sherifnix View Post
I only hope for the best with the N800, and I also hope that Nokia proves me wrong. It's all potential now, but with some luck they'll start polishing what we have so far. They have it in them.

We have a wonderful community, minus a few loudmouths. I hate that I brought negativity, but I only get emotional because of my love for the IT and the open-source doodooheads. /hug ITT I'll check back with ya'll after a firmware or two
You'll be back after ONE upgrade.

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