I have only one further question though...

What if the N8 comes out and it's panned for the same exact reasons that Eldar has already stated? All of this time and Nokia hasn't improved anything. Would this be worth it?

Still sorta shows that the fixes are needed and just might never come. Only the sales will dictate the victor in that scenario.

So he lives for another sortie' and then perhaps he earns his sainthood rightously...

Its release is "soon", is it?

We all know how long a Nokia soon is, don't we?
Maybe they have time to make changes.

Perhaps he was used all along and Nokia is the deity and we're all part of a grand illusion...

I'm sure Boldar will always be around. If he isn't and we still are, I will make sure to reopen the topic by saying his correct name three times.


I'm just watching and commenting on the game o' life and in that game only one thing is near certain... things change.

Well at least the name calling is a bit gentle on this site. Guess I should stop offering another point of view to the masses. Serves me right for breaking up the group-think.

Oh, come on. Group-think? here???

Stick around. Groups here are fluid.

You may consinder the option that the masses can also be right.
Eldar posted right here on this site, bashing the unreleased N900 and claiming to have "high connections" in Nokia or somthing like that.
Nokia is hurting because someone is violating his NDS and he is helping that someone. They should've stopped him long ago.

I never implied that I was right and you were wrong. I was simply bringing in another point of view.

"Nokia is hurting because someone is violating his NDS and he is helping that someone."

Helping someone break an NDA is not against the law. Signing an NDA and then breaking it is against the law. Nokia need to find and plug their leak internally. They do not need to target outside parties. That is pretty much my subjective opinion on the matter.

I am not a lawyer but NOMOS is and had written a good long post on the subject. Go back and read it. What I claim is that eldar is not your average journalist, he has is own agenda and Nokia is using legal actions to fight back.

I suspect Nokia are pretty sure who their "leak" is, imo the idea here is to make other journalists/bloggers think twice about writing damning reports on their hardware in future.

I can only imagine Eldar isn't stupid enough to have this prototype sitting around in his bedroom waiting to be searched, it would have been either returned long ago or lobbed into the river. So it makes me wonder how they think they can prosecute him. I don't know Russian law, but if he isnt found with the handset then surely it's a flimsy case. Which makes me think, does Nokia already have the handset and can confirm Eldar's prints (electronic or otherwise) on it, or have they tracked it's use remotely perhaps over the wireless connection on the handset? If not, then the whole exercise is just a scaring tactic.

If nothing else, it's interesting to see what will come of it

I haven't been following this issue much, but I didn't see proof in this thread that Eldar was actually in permanent possession of the device.

By the way, I saw strong support in this thread for a sanctimonious statement of what Russian law stands for. In my experience, Russian law is a pretty fluid thing; even if a principle is shouted from the rooftops, it might be violated in practice practically everywhere. What courts will find depends on a lot of things other than what the law says. So I am skeptical about statements about Russian law that appear to imply it is similar to other legal systems in other countries.