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Ah, thanks for the info. Didn't know that on most of the devices they are fake.Makes me wonder what's the point in making fake extendable antenna..
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
The point is that people firmly in the extendable > internal crowd will buy your phone -- if you leave off the phony antenna, they'll buy somebody else's.
Ah, thanks for the info. Didn't know that on most of the devices they are fake.Makes me wonder what's the point in making fake extendable antenna..
(I hadn't known they were fake either, but upon reflection it makes perfect sense to me.)
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Originally Posted by ossipena
Yeah, you're right. Jobs is only worth 5.5 Billion, so he can't just buy Nokia outright.
yes in some imaginary world. if you'd know how stock markets function, you would not claim such things.
He'd definitely need to take out a loan...
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Originally Posted by techngro
Doesn't work that way in real life. This reminds me of the arguments a while back that Microsoft could just buy Nintendo.
Yeah, you're right. Jobs is only worth 5.5 Billion, so he can't just buy Nokia outright.
He'd definitely need to take out a loan...
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Originally Posted by woody14619
That might be the case lately just before all have gone to internal antenna design... But my first phone (Mobira CItyman 5000) I purchased in 1994 had this kind of extended antenna. It worked properly only in two positions (fully in or fully extended). On those positions there was a metal collar making snug fit to the antenna base . If I hold the antenna in the "middle" where the antenna wasn't making proper contact, I quickly lost many bars or dropped connection completely. The top (stub) end had this coil that you mention. I think its purpose is to extend the antenna electrical length to quarter wave... (It was 900MHz phone)
Uh... Hate to mention this, but on most devices, those antenna are fake. Cell antennas tend to be coiled, at a specific radius, and to a very specific length. I've owned several different varieties of phones over the years, and with the exception of the very early brick phones all of them with extendable antennas had a plastic antenna that was hollow.
I have at least two motorola phones (flip varieties) still around that have the extendable plastic bit that looks like an antenna on it. The real antenna is in the core/cap, coiled around the hole where the plastic bit slides up and down. I actually took a pair of needle nose pliers and clipped the antenna off to show a friend of mine that it was 100% plastic. Nothing conductive at all in there, purely cosmetic.
Worse, in most of those early designs, the coils were near the top, near the fake antenna. Meaning it was right next to your head...
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Why don't they prioritze love? We could all live in harmony with a device that radiated love 
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Originally Posted by woody14619
Wasteman
Uh... Hate to mention this, but on most devices, those antenna are fake. Cell antennas tend to be coiled, at a specific radius, and to a very specific length. I've owned several different varieties of phones over the years, and with the exception of the very early brick phones all of them with extendable antennas had a plastic antenna that was hollow.
I have at least two motorola phones (flip varieties) still around that have the extendable plastic bit that looks like an antenna on it. The real antenna is in the core/cap, coiled around the hole where the plastic bit slides up and down. I actually took a pair of needle nose pliers and clipped the antenna off to show a friend of mine that it was 100% plastic. Nothing conductive at all in there, purely cosmetic.
Worse, in most of those early designs, the coils were near the top, near the fake antenna. Meaning it was right next to your head...
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Originally Posted by windows7
This is the most constructive idea that has ever come of these rant threads. Is there actually a way to do it? I wish I still wrote software!
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Nokia owning symbian, due to the lack of apps on the n900, nokia should release a Symbian emulator for us to run some of the great symbian apps available. If they cannot create an emulator then maybe they should release the symbian source code for the community to come up with something, then we could share the symbian success on the n900, as well as everything else.
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Originally Posted by danramos
you just went thousand miles off the track. and you are so wrong that you can't even have a clue... it is shame that people criticizing wall street people are the ones who don't even bother read up on what stocks really are etc..
Who the hell TRULY understands how the stock market works? Certainly not anybody on Wall Street.
"The way to make a small fortune in the stock market is to first begin with a large one."
but lets start with basics: share price is a price the deals are made currently with relatively small quantities. if Jobs has more cash than nokias share price multiplied by amount of shares, he can't get all the shares. that is because when you buy shares in large quantities, prices go up (demand becomes higher). usually when trying to get all the shares, you have to pay a premium. the higher the premium, the bigger the probability that you will succeed. but I'll say that with nokia it would have to be something like 200-500% to even look a bit realistic.
If I'd own nokias stock, Jobs would have to pay me about 500% premium for it.... if he don't, he doesn't really want it.
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I have at least two motorola phones (flip varieties) still around that have the extendable plastic bit that looks like an antenna on it. The real antenna is in the core/cap, coiled around the hole where the plastic bit slides up and down. I actually took a pair of needle nose pliers and clipped the antenna off to show a friend of mine that it was 100% plastic. Nothing conductive at all in there, purely cosmetic.
Worse, in most of those early designs, the coils were near the top, near the fake antenna. Meaning it was right next to your head...