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2010-07-23 , 00:32
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Originally Posted by shadowjk View Post
And yes, I'm probably missing out on good stuff like titan's kernel, but I fee much better not taking part in the bigger hatefest.
Overclocking, just like PC, is for people who need it or want it for a specific thing. Most PC overclockers want better framerate for gaming, better benchmark results, faster video encoding etc.

For the N900, going from 600Mhz to 1Ghz pretty much doubles DrNokSnes framerate. (eg. Yoshi's Island goes from around 25fps to 45fps) My Paint becomes more responsive, multitasking becomes more responsive, MicroB becomes more responsive etc. It's quite noticeable in everyday use.

No idea why overclocking is considered a sin when you can customize the kernels, create buggy devel apps etc to your hearts content on the N900. To me, that's equivalent to overclocking in terms of risk.
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2010-07-23 , 00:55
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Nokia: "Big annoncement guys. Our Ovi Store now has 25 apps."

Blogger: "You mean 25,000 apps..."

Nokia: "Why would you need 25,000 apps?"

Blogger: "Dude, are you serious?"

Nokia: "Security!..."
Nokia: "Big announcement guys. Ovi Store now has FCamera."

Blogger: "What does it do?"

Nokia: "It lets you take photos with the camera."

Blogger: "Doesn't the stock camera do that?"

Nokia: "What's your point?"

Blogger: "Dude, are you f#*$()&! serious?"

Nokia: "Security!"
 

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2010-07-23 , 01:08
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#413
hahahahaha good one techngro ( gia sas elines )
 
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2010-07-23 , 01:11
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Originally Posted by jakiman View Post
No idea why overclocking is considered a sin when you can customize the kernels, create buggy devel apps etc to your hearts content on the N900. To me, that's equivalent to overclocking in terms of risk.
I don't remember anybody posting that overclocking was a sin.

But saying that someone cannot be regarded a valid N900 user because they don't know about a kernel customised solely for overclocking is insolent to no extend.

You have your shiny little overclocking world where Titans kernel is the nonplusultra of installable content for the N900 - the rest of us (and that's a HUGE rest) either have never heard or simply don't care about it.

What I don't get: the developers have, almost instantly after hearing about this incompatibility issue, posted they'll try to fix it.

Instead of saying thanks (which would be due - for, like you said, overclocking is on par with using extras-devel, and almost NOBODY cares whether their application is incompatible with any extras-devel software), they are now being defamed as "not even owning a N900".
 

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2010-07-23 , 02:18
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Given that a N900 can at any given time be either overclocked or not; and that the FCam developers MUST develop something that works on official N900 firmware, I do not think they should spend a single hour conforming to an overclockers kernel until after v. 1.0 release. If you try to develop the perfect application, no one will ever see it. If you develop a good application, you can improve it once it has had a good reception. If it doesn't get a good reception, spending time on conforming it to a different kernel is not only a delay but a pointless one.
 

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2010-07-23 , 03:38
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Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
is it? what is it anyway? connected somehow to overclocking?

kaboom, your point has been flushed.

e: what can we learn? your use cases aren't the only ones. N900 allows huge diversity.
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2010-07-23 , 04:14
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Seriously how long will it takes for TOMORROW to come? Tomorrow from nokia is may be next month or next year.
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2010-07-23 , 04:18
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Originally Posted by techngro View Post
Nokia: "Big announcement guys. Ovi Store now has FCamera."

Blogger: "What does it do?"

Nokia: "It lets you take photos with the camera."

Blogger: "Doesn't the stock camera do that?"

Nokia: "What's your point?"

Blogger: "Dude, are you f#*$()&! serious?"

Nokia: "Security!"
I didn't even bother counting the mistakes there after two first ones
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2010-07-23 , 06:11
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Originally Posted by Nathraiben View Post
But saying that someone cannot be regarded a valid N900 user because they don't know about a kernel customised solely for overclocking is insolent to no extend.

You have your shiny little overclocking world where Titans kernel is the nonplusultra of installable content for the N900 - the rest of us (and that's a HUGE rest) either have never heard or simply don't care about it.

What I don't get: the developers have, almost instantly after hearing about this incompatibility issue, posted they'll try to fix it.

Instead of saying thanks (which would be due - for, like you said, overclocking is on par with using extras-devel, and almost NOBODY cares whether their application is incompatible with any extras-devel software), they are now being defamed as "not even owning a N900".
You quoted my post but accused about things I've never said or done. I'll just assume you were referring to some other ignorant posters and not me.

I'll bet titan's kernel (due to overclocking support) is and will continue to be more popular than FCam and I mean that with absolutely no intention of disrespect to FCam whatsoever. (I'm a photography buff and love the idea of FCam and I've thanked the developer already.)

You'll be surprised how many actually overclock but don't even have accounts at TMO. (I know at least 5 people at work and many more at other community forums) However, many who do want to use FCam are also TMO buffs and many of them would be also using titan's kernel. (titan's kernel was useful even before overclocking was discovered. NTFS, USP/IP etc. Overclocking support was added later on and he did a mighty fine job as he put fail-safe's in place for even the noobs.)

It is in best interest by the FCam developer to see if he can get it working with the most popular custom kernel for the N900. It's a win win if he can pull it off as he'll get much more FCam users. (Obviosly, it might be the other way around and titan might need to modify his kernel to not conflict with FCam.)
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2010-07-23 , 07:02
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Originally Posted by techngro View Post
Nokia: "Big announcement guys. Ovi Store now has FCamera."

Blogger: "What does it do?"

Nokia: "It lets you take photos with the camera."

Blogger: "Doesn't the stock camera do that?"

Nokia: "What's your point?"

Blogger: "Dude, are you f#*$()&! serious?"

Nokia: "Security!"
I am unable to find in ovistore, nor in App Manager. Can you show me the link please?
 
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