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2007-10-01 , 09:53
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#141
Certainly we can’t halt the march of hardware development, nor would we want too. What is sorely lacking with the N800 is the march of software development.

So I am a bit confused by Nokia bringing out a new device. If it’s going to do as little as the existing one then it all seems a bit pointless to me.
 
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2007-10-01 , 10:43
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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
It is pretty obvious that wimax will not come with this version. As far as i see the following are the imporvements.
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4. Only one memory card slot
Why on Earth would that be an "improvement"? Am I supposed to lose e.g. all my Maemo Mapper maps just because I want to insert my camera SD card? Or worse, if I'm going the 'boot from MMC (SD)' route? I wouldn't be able to insert _any_ card! Heck, as far as I'm concerned the IT could have SD slots all the way around the periphery, so that I could have all my cards installed at the same time, instead of having them collected in a separate pocket as I currently do.
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2007-10-01 , 11:22
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#143
I find it quite amusing how hard it is for most people to accept change...

So the new tablet will likely have a slide out keyboard. I wouldn't use it much either, but it could be useful in the future. Besides, we still don't really know if it's even a keyboard yet. It could be an advanced stand mechanism, some sort of new hard cover for the device, or a new way to access the camera. I'll wait to see the device in action before coming to the conclusion that the "rumored" keyboard is useless too.

If there is something about the new tablet you don't like, don't buy it when it comes out. It's as simple as that. And if you just purchased an N800 or even a 770, be happy with it. It won't self-destruct as soon as the new tablet shows up on store shelves. You can still get a lot of good use out of the 770/N800. It's one of the major reasons I never upgraded from the 770 to the N800.

We haven't even seen the actual device yet, and people are going into panic mode about this thing! Just wait a while for device to actually show it's true form. You may be just as surprised by it's coolness as you were when the N800 first showed up around here.
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2007-10-01 , 11:50
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
To an extent, sure, but I still feel too many people must be expecting desktop performance from these tiny things, based on comments. That convergence is a while away... maybe never.
My problem is exactly the opposite: I don't want desktop performance -- or mimicking, if you like. A handheld device manufacturer should concentrate on the UI algorythms, not trying to imitate that (Bog help us) Windows desktop in front of him.

That is the reason why I keep yapping about the Newton, because that brick had that part completely right: Apple made a computer that was taylored to be used in your hands.

Okay, it was Apple, so it was hideously expensive and compatible with exactly nothing else, but for once (probably because Jobs was still hammering at the doors) they had one thing right: a (sort of) open and (sort of) fuctional SDK. Developing proggies for the Newton is really easy.
 
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2007-10-01 , 11:55
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
So you're saying that open devices are held to a different standard?
Less intuitive interface and slower development time is acceptable?
Yes.

Also, one's not allowed to use the really gross swearwords when addressing the developers. Using ones that don't get starred out, is acceptable though.

E.g.: I might think that Nokia are total ***** and ************* to boot, but I'd have to write that they are pussies and perpetrators of incestuous acts with their mothers. See the difference?
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
My problem is exactly the opposite: I don't want desktop performance -- or mimicking, if you like. A handheld device manufacturer should concentrate on the UI algorythms, not trying to imitate that (Bog help us) Windows desktop in front of him.

That is the reason why I keep yapping about the Newton, because that brick had that part completely right: Apple made a computer that was taylored to be used in your hands.

Okay, it was Apple, so it was hideously expensive and compatible with exactly nothing else, but for once (probably because Jobs was still hammering at the doors) they had one thing right: a (sort of) open and (sort of) fuctional SDK. Developing proggies for the Newton is really easy.
There's a reason the Newton didn't sell. It was *horrible*.
 
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2007-10-01 , 12:35
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Originally Posted by =DC= View Post
I find it quite amusing how hard it is for most people to accept change...

So the new tablet will likely have a slide out keyboard. I wouldn't use it much either, but it could be useful in the future. Besides, we still don't really know if it's even a keyboard yet. It could be an advanced stand mechanism, some sort of new hard cover for the device, or a new way to access the camera. I'll wait to see the device in action before coming to the conclusion that the "rumored" keyboard is useless too.

We haven't even seen the actual device yet, and people are going into panic mode about this thing! Just wait a while for device to actually show it's true form. You may be just as surprised by it's coolness as you were when the N800 first showed up around here.
When people buy the device for its potential, the future direction is important. If it is a slide out keyboard, I don't want it, my BT keyboard works just fine. It doesn't add size or weight. Most importantly, we know Nokia needs to instead use its resources to get the software up to snuff.

I never said the N800 was cool
 
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2007-10-01 , 13:02
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Originally Posted by =DC= View Post
I find it quite amusing how hard it is for most people to accept change...

So the new tablet will likely have a slide out keyboard. I wouldn't use it much either, but it could be useful in the future.

...

We haven't even seen the actual device yet, and people are going into panic mode about this thing!
IMO this is because of quantity of new tablet models. Nokia releases tons of different phones each year. Only single new tablet per year is not enough. If they would make 2-3 tablet models (one with keyboard, one with hardcover, ...), there would be no panic with each new one. Also previous model would not be automatically perceived as obsolete. I hope these times will come sooner than later. One size does not fit all.
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2007-10-01 , 13:07
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Okay, okay, so the N800 gained some nice features, and lost some as well. It's a high probability that this third tablet will be the same way. However, I think the transition will be a lot smoother this time around as it pertains to the OS and installable apps. In fact, I have high hopes that there will be a stronger focus on making the software much better as well. Even more so than the hardware changes.

But that doesn't mean we can't have both. It's a heck of a lot better than having neither.
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2007-10-01 , 13:13
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Originally Posted by =DC= View Post
If there is something about the new tablet you don't like, don't buy it when it comes out. It's as simple as that.
Thats the way it is, yes, and that's what I do. I didn't buy the N800 because it lacks the hard cover, has hard to press, low quality buttons and looks like a toy for children. Don't like it, so I don't buy it.

The problem with this is that I do like the Maemo platform and the way Nokia invests in this business. I'd love to be part of it and get the latest developments in software. So sticking to the 770 forever is not an option.

I hope you can see where the disappointment comes from if there's reason to believe that a new device could be even one step further away from what you'd expect from an internet tablet instead of closer to the once so promising beginnings.

(You're right, though, saying that we don't know anything yet. Maybe what they refer to as "slide" is in fact a cover, not a keyboard )
 
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