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2010-08-17
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No problem at all. Feel free to note me if you have any more questions about Android.
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by danramos
that is the big question if i go for iphone4g will i be able to do everything i can do on my n900,it seems the only answer is buy it and see as nobody can get past hype and spin.so why change because nobody seems to know, spend a large amount of money on a new device and find it cannot list and upload pictures to ebay.streak seems nice but has 1.6 why.apps are only a way of getting around a problem desktops laptops do not need apps i want a portable device that does what a full blown laptop does.maybe meego maemo are that step foreword to that in the future, without companies pushing apps so they can make more money its not in there interest to give me what i want.just maybe meego is that step foreword.
@Eric G:
You don't understanding the topic, are you?
1) What is meant by "full browser"? Aren't the browsers on Android "full browsers?" They aren't using WAP or some translation or degraded rendering or anything. So, I'm confused by the question. Near as I can tell, the Android browser is a full browser as is the HTC Internet browser (webkit based, just like Safari, Tear, etc).
2) Dolphin exists, that's Gecko engine (Mozilla/Firefox based) sure
3) There's also Fennec for Android coming soon (although, if you're just THAT impatient, you could go and get it now at http://groups.google.com/group/fennec-android-pre-alpha)
4) And if you liked Opera Mini 5.x on the N8x0 and N900, they scratched that itch too: http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2010/07/14/
I dare say there's a veritable PLETHORA of web browsers available for Android. At least one or two of them HAVE to qualify as a "full" web browser for crying out loud.If not, I'll boil this lobster alive and eat him, see if I won't!
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2010-08-17
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I know about the iPhone. What do you want to do, and then I can try to answer honestly if the iPhone can or cannot do it - with or without jailbreaking.
If you're a deep down Linux lover, I'll answer that for you now... NO. It cannot do all of the things you want it to do unless you jailbreak it. Then Apple will not support you.
So it just matters. What do you want your phone to do?
If you're a deep down Linux lover, I'll answer that for you now... NO. It cannot do all of the things you want it to do unless you jailbreak it. Then Apple will not support you.
So it just matters. What do you want your phone to do?
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by hhadrian
I can't speak for iPhone 4G, but I don't know why you think that web browsing on the Android might be any different than using any other browser, even on a laptop, for eBay, especially if they're running the same rendering engines (gecko and webkit).
that is the big question if i go for iphone4g will i be able to do everything i can do on my n900,it seems the only answer is buy it and see as nobody can get past hype and spin.so why change because nobody seems to know, spend a large amount of money on a new device and find it cannot list and upload pictures to ebay.streak seems nice but has 1.6 why.apps are only a way of getting around a problem desktops laptops do not need apps i want a portable device that does what a full blown laptop does.maybe meego maemo are that step foreword to that in the future, without companies pushing apps so they can make more money its not in there interest to give me what i want.just maybe meego is that step foreword.
If you're really that paranoid and want to test it out, why don't you take a nice walk, stroll or drive out to try one out? You have the ENORMOUS benefit of being able to walk into a store to see Apple iPhones and various Android handsets. That's more than you can say for the N900's buying experience this past (LESS THAN A) year.
MeeGo may or not not be a step forward--but I don't see how you made the leap from browser experience to MeeGo. MeeGo isn't a web browser and MeeGo isn't going to make your web browser any worse or better than anything on iPhone, Android, Blackberry or anything else, especially if they're running the same browsers. Fennec on Android looks identical to the N900 version, for instance. What's your point?
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2010-08-17
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I will que myself up for a GSM version of the Epic 4G, or maybe SE will make an Android with a slideout keyboard that has a screen thats atleast 3.5in. Otherwise Nokia will really have to impress at NokiaWorld.
-BTW Danramos ty for all the help. Do you have any comments on Froyo's battery life? I hear in general androids have a worse battery life than the N900.
-BTW Danramos ty for all the help. Do you have any comments on Froyo's battery life? I hear in general androids have a worse battery life than the N900.
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by danramos
your right all bow to apple and android (stay indoors)
I can't speak for iPhone 4G, but I don't know why you think that web browsing on the Android might be any different than using any other browser, even on a laptop, for eBay, especially if they're running the same rendering engines (gecko and webkit).
If you're really that paranoid and want to test it out, why don't you take a nice walk, stroll or drive out to try one out? You have the ENORMOUS benefit of being able to walk into a store to see Apple iPhones and various Android handsets. That's more than you can say for the N900's buying experience this past (LESS THAN A) year.
MeeGo may or not not be a step forward--but I don't see how you made the leap from browser experience to MeeGo. MeeGo isn't a web browser and MeeGo isn't going to make your web browser any worse or better than anything on iPhone, Android, Blackberry or anything else, especially if they're running the same browsers. Fennec on Android looks identical to the N900 version, for instance. What's your point?
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by hhadrian
Naw. Just keep your head on straight try stuff out for yourself instead of pretending you, I or anyone knows what's best for you sight-unseen without even trying things out. What I'm basically saying is, in fact, the opposite: get out more, lad.
your right all bow to apple and android (stay indoors)
Originally Posted by automagic68
No problem at all! It feels good to finally be able to answer questions and help out with something after the past year of being noised-out by all the N900 stuff, sitting here on my N800.
-BTW Danramos ty for all the help. Do you have any comments on Froyo's battery life? I hear in general androids have a worse battery life than the N900.
I'm not sure I can really speak to this particular question--I'm using a Motorola Droid, which is KNOWN to have some of the longest battery life out of all the Android phones out there (which is a big reason why I got it--I depend on my phone to be a PHONE first, so battery life is important. Well, that--and it's tough as a tank--I've unintentionally slammed it into the floor at violent velocity several times with absolutely no ill effects whatsoever).
In my own personal experience, stock Android 2.1 let me run for several days on a single charge if it's just idling. If I use it for phone calls, it seems like it'll take a few hours to run out (my guess is that it seemed as if it'd go for 3-4 hours nonstop maybe). I know that the most PUNISHING thing I can do is play an online multiplayer video game called "Armored Strike" (with wifi or 3G on for gaming with a bunch of other fools). With that, I was able to run from full charge to nearly empty in about 2.5 hours, more or less. Mind you--all these numbers are complete guesses based on my faulty human recollection... but it seems to run pretty alright under 2.1.
Since installing stock Android 2.2, I didn't notice any real noticeable difference--but then I didn't get to try it out as much, since it's still new.
I've recently gone and flashed my ROM with Bugless Beast and it overclocks me up to 800MHz, and now I HAVE noticed that the battery is draining faster.. but since I keep charging my phone at home on its dock, in my car in its dock and then charging it at work on a cable (since I keep it on constantly to watch or listen to news), I rarely give it much of an opportunity to test those limits.
If I find that I ever need to expand the capacity of the battery, though, it turns out that there are higher capacity batteries (with custom backplates) available for my Motorola Droid (and mounts to fit the modification), so.. if nothing else I could always go that route later. It's nice to at least have these choices.
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2010-08-17
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The reason I bought the N900 was because that was the best for me available at that time. Also, I loved this community.
When I bought my phone, I was very clear that this phone had to suffice me for around 2 years atleast. It's nearing 1 year now and I am sure I will be happy with it for another 1 year too.
2 years is a too big time in mobile space. The best phones today are going to be just average phones in 2 years time. It's important that you choose the phone with the best hardware possible.
However, the following spec from Nokia (for "N9") might tempt me for an impulse purchase before my planned 2 year upgrade period:
1. 12 MP Camera with shutter and Dual Xenon Flash
2. Super AMOLED (or pixel Qi) capacitive screen
3. atleast 4-row Keyboard
4. Dual Core ARM or the latest & greatest ARM processor for mobiles at that time.
5. 1GB RAM & 1 GB ROM or more
6. 32/64 Gb in-built memory
7. atleast 1 micro SDHC/X slot (should be hot-swappable i.e., it should be replaceable without removing battery)
8. Dual SIM slots (with atleast one being hot-swappable)
9. Radios & Sensors: FM Radio/FM Transmitter/compass/gyroscope/accelometer/IR/bluetooth3.0/5 band 3G/4G ready (LTE)/front facing camera/NFC/ambient sensor/proximity sensor/noise cancellation/wifi b/g/n
10. 1 USB port and 1 standard nokia charging point or 2 usb ports. With OTG/Host mode support.
11. 3.5mm audio
12. HDMI 1.4
13. 32/64 Gb in-built memory
14. Weight ~150gms (upto 180 gms might also be fine)
15. physical size (especially thickness) should be equal to or smaller than the current N900
16. Screen: 3.5 to 4" with high resolution and good pitch density
17. MeeGo OS
18. Constant updates as promised (once every 6 months)
19. Hot swappable battery!
Except for the Dual SIM and hot swappable battery, I think I have been reasonable enough with my specs. However, Dual-SIM and hot swappable battery would both really be ground-breaking. I hope the "N9" comes with these.
Last edited by vkv.raju; 2010-08-17 at 10:19.
When I bought my phone, I was very clear that this phone had to suffice me for around 2 years atleast. It's nearing 1 year now and I am sure I will be happy with it for another 1 year too.
2 years is a too big time in mobile space. The best phones today are going to be just average phones in 2 years time. It's important that you choose the phone with the best hardware possible.
However, the following spec from Nokia (for "N9") might tempt me for an impulse purchase before my planned 2 year upgrade period:
1. 12 MP Camera with shutter and Dual Xenon Flash
2. Super AMOLED (or pixel Qi) capacitive screen
3. atleast 4-row Keyboard
4. Dual Core ARM or the latest & greatest ARM processor for mobiles at that time.
5. 1GB RAM & 1 GB ROM or more
6. 32/64 Gb in-built memory
7. atleast 1 micro SDHC/X slot (should be hot-swappable i.e., it should be replaceable without removing battery)
8. Dual SIM slots (with atleast one being hot-swappable)
9. Radios & Sensors: FM Radio/FM Transmitter/compass/gyroscope/accelometer/IR/bluetooth3.0/5 band 3G/4G ready (LTE)/front facing camera/NFC/ambient sensor/proximity sensor/noise cancellation/wifi b/g/n
10. 1 USB port and 1 standard nokia charging point or 2 usb ports. With OTG/Host mode support.
11. 3.5mm audio
12. HDMI 1.4
13. 32/64 Gb in-built memory
14. Weight ~150gms (upto 180 gms might also be fine)
15. physical size (especially thickness) should be equal to or smaller than the current N900
16. Screen: 3.5 to 4" with high resolution and good pitch density
17. MeeGo OS
18. Constant updates as promised (once every 6 months)
19. Hot swappable battery!
Except for the Dual SIM and hot swappable battery, I think I have been reasonable enough with my specs. However, Dual-SIM and hot swappable battery would both really be ground-breaking. I hope the "N9" comes with these.
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2010-08-17
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Originally Posted by danramos
A few people mentioned the Galaxy-S. I said it shouldn't be considered until they work the bugs out. What's not understanding? English?
@Eric G:
You don't understanding the topic, are you?
Thanks for the info, I'll go back to mourning the future loss of my N900, while processing the new information you both just gave me!
Cheers!
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