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2010-09-12
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I did look at the G1, if not obvious, it was hidden in the 'first Android device' reference of my post. You still managed to miss the point - the support cycle has much more to do with the success and position of the particular device than a manufacturer approach (with the notable exception of Apple).
Why don't you look at the G1? It seems to still be an exception to your myopic conjecture. There are others. Want to keep pointing to the failures, feel free.
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2010-09-12
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Originally Posted by attila77
Like I said; good luck with continued, official support. There is not one ounce of falsehood in that statement.
I did look at the G1, if not obvious, it was hidden in the 'first Android device' reference of my post. You still managed to miss the point - the support cycle has much more to do with the success and position of the particular device than a manufacturer approach (with the notable exception of Apple).
I missed no point. If people were to only handpick what supports their wayward agendas and/or speaking points, then they will appear correct.
In this situation, comparing the N900, one item out of many in Nokia's portfolio, but the only one that ran Maemo 5 and comparing it to a handful of Android phones out of many only to support the notion that EOL support happens on a mass scale in that arena is misleading; whereas the only Maemo 5 device got EOL basically in 6-7 months.
Again. That's the unfortunate fact. The official support cycle for the only Maemo 5 device was cut short and it's never going to come back.
Those aforesaid Android devices that didn't make the transition past 1.6 - it's unfortunate to the customer. In fact, both are downright a negative for the customer.
Just seems odd that people are so gosh darn happy about lack of support and are willing to buy multiple devices that are all EOL.
EOL happens. I just cannot rejoice when it's less than 1 year. And if you go back to what I said earlier; that's what the **** I said earlier too. Stop adding ******** to what's been said; it's annoying.
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2010-09-12
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Galaxy S is only manufactured by Samsung. There's nothing complex about that.
Similar phones will happen especially when they (and I'm assuming you meant Google Android phones here) are all running Google Android.
Just as there's only one phone (ever) that ran Maemo 5, it's easy to stand out. And apparently, even easier to get left behind.
I'll take reservation with the calculator remark - I'm a huge fan of my HP 48GX. 17 years later, it's still rock solid. To each his own.
By complex I meant your deduction and ultimately the implications of what you thought I said, but didn't, simply because I didn't think in such complex terms.Every now and then, manufacturers make something extraordinary, it can be cars, motorcycles, sewing machines or whatever. Some people call these things a flop, and from a mainstream commercial point of view they are correct. But it is the extraordinary that ultimately defines the mainstream. The N900 is such a device, while iPhones and all Androids (with some exceptions) are the mainstream. We may never again see a commercially available phone that the average guy can use and install several different OS'es on. But then again, maybe we will. Either way the N900 will be recorded in the history of phones as something truly extraordinary, while all the Galaxy-type Android phones no matter the exact specs, will be forgotten. Samsung wave (Bada) will be remembered, as will the original iPhone.
The N900, even when "dead" and forgotten by Nokia, will outlive all the top Android phones of today and tomorrow, just like the 25 year old HP15c. Purchasing a couple of N900s is an investment. It won't make you a millionaire, but you will not loose much money either.
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2010-09-12
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holla! i got my n900 @ 550 usd and now its 160 usd less, same supplier.......i am being temped to get another one......
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2010-09-13
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Admitted, I never really looked in to it but I always assumed Death was open-source. Now it seems to be reverse-engineered and the binaries shared through PM channels.
Last edited by anthonie; 2010-09-13 at 19:49.
Last edited by anthonie; 2010-09-13 at 19:49.
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2010-09-13
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I am confused by the claims that the N900 is no longer for sale on the nokia website. It is in the UK, Finland, Germany, France, Australia, Japan, China etc etc. (all the ones I could be bothered to check). Not the USA though. But that doesn't mean squat!!
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2010-09-13
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I think hardware wise N900 has a lot going for it... and with the clever minds of the folk on here, it will continue to be the device to be beaten.
Meego will be ported by "someone" at "some point". even if its out of curiosity. as im sure other OS's will be. whatever linux derivative comes next.
Like the Nitdroid guys. it may be that maemo is completely replaced by it, giving the N900 years of servicable life. it dont really matter that nokia arent supporting maemo / software wise any more.
the N900 is dead (maybe)... long live the N900 hardware! lol.
Meego will be ported by "someone" at "some point". even if its out of curiosity. as im sure other OS's will be. whatever linux derivative comes next.
Like the Nitdroid guys. it may be that maemo is completely replaced by it, giving the N900 years of servicable life. it dont really matter that nokia arent supporting maemo / software wise any more.
the N900 is dead (maybe)... long live the N900 hardware! lol.
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2010-09-13
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Yep, official support is short, but with a successor on the rise (Harmattan) this was, in my case, expected.
Like I said; good luck with continued, official support. There is not one ounce of falsehood in that statement.
I wonder what will happen if a corporation gets sued for such. For example, not providing security and reliability fixes is probably neglecting the 'proper functionality' which is an aspect of warranty under EU law. Does anyone have jurisprudence concerning this?
Originally Posted by br1zer
He was probably thinking about battery performance
The N900 is nowhere near the shortest lived phone.
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2010-09-13
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n900 = next Sega Dreamcast.
it will keep a group of loyal followers, and hacking / developing for it will never end! it will be great times!!
it will keep a group of loyal followers, and hacking / developing for it will never end! it will be great times!!
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