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2010-09-27
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Originally Posted by slender
Thanks. I did say ****ing please.
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2010-09-28
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The NYTimes is just a liberal rag spouting lies...DAMNED LIES!
Nokia is the greatest phone company on the face of the planet. End of story.
The Blackberry Torch and the PlayBook are gonna revolutionize the industry. Meego is so much better than iOS or Android. Its much more powerful and has a better UI.
Nokia gives customers what they want.
Nokia FTW!
Apple, Android, NYTimes are FAIL!
(Now you guys know how I feel when I read most of the posts on this board.)
Nokia is the greatest phone company on the face of the planet. End of story.
The Blackberry Torch and the PlayBook are gonna revolutionize the industry. Meego is so much better than iOS or Android. Its much more powerful and has a better UI.
Nokia gives customers what they want.
Nokia FTW!
Apple, Android, NYTimes are FAIL!
(Now you guys know how I feel when I read most of the posts on this board.)
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2010-09-28
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Originally Posted by techngro
I so agree about this first line, else was tl;dr
The NYTimes is just a liberal rag spouting lies...DAMNED LIES!
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2010-09-28
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@ slender
Thanks for the link! I enjoyed
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...-platform.html
it puts a slightly different spin on perspectives.
Thanks for the link! I enjoyed
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...-platform.html
it puts a slightly different spin on perspectives.
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2010-09-28
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Read the article. Have to agree with it 100%.
I kept banging on about how they should have spun out development to ninja teams who have a blank canvas and are free to do whatever they want. I wasn't the only one. But it seems taking risks was not an option.. not in the least. Nokia try to mitigate every risk and the result is.. well designed by commitee. Just get stuff out the door. But ironically this risk mitigation backfires sometimes.. just look at how delayed the N8 is..
No cutting edge method allowed. I found it totally depressing that alot of the internal tools used .NET instead of open source tools.
I kept banging on about how they should have spun out development to ninja teams who have a blank canvas and are free to do whatever they want. I wasn't the only one. But it seems taking risks was not an option.. not in the least. Nokia try to mitigate every risk and the result is.. well designed by commitee. Just get stuff out the door. But ironically this risk mitigation backfires sometimes.. just look at how delayed the N8 is..
No cutting edge method allowed. I found it totally depressing that alot of the internal tools used .NET instead of open source tools.
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2010-09-28
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Originally Posted by techngro
Right, since we're not riding along with regretting and hating ourselves (and Nokia) for buying an N900? It seems that anyone who doesn't blindly roll with the Nokia hate is immediately labeled a fanboy.
So I'm not allowed to think one way or the other, I must either be a blind fanboy or a blind hater, right?
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2010-09-28
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Originally Posted by quipper8
Capacitive is far better for the mainstream and so Nokia need to switch to capacitive if they want to make a very successful mass market device and stay relevant at all in the mainstream rather than just the geek community.
and for chinese, resistive is way better
case in point, the motorola mt810, a capacitive android phone with a flip down resistive screen(mainly for chinese input)
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2010-09-28
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Originally Posted by etuoyo
*Sigh* The average consumer won't even care. You tell them capacitive is amazing, they'll cum all over themselves when they get one. You tell them resistive is amazing, they'll do the same for those.
Capacitive is far better for the mainstream and so Nokia need to switch to capacitive if they want to make a very successful mass market device and stay relevant at all in the mainstream rather than just the geek community.
At the end of the day, the mainstream is fickle, and more importantly, rather mindless. I mean, you're on the Maemo forum, no? You felt the N900's screen? I don't care how much firmware changes f'ed things up, that's a damn good, sensitive screen. And we already know there's Stantum screens that can do multitouch on resistive screens. Which is pretty much the only legit advantage the capacitive screen held. The average user would be more than happy with the resistive options that will soon be available, if only they actually cared about it as anything more than the words they hear ads tossing about.
The only other "advantage" is that you can't actually touch a capacitive screen with a semi-conductive surface without it registering a touch without you locking the screen first. 'cept that's really not an advantage, in my eyes. Ultimately, with resistive technology being as good as it is nowadays, they can be nearly as sensitive, and it won't be long until they are as sensitive, to human perception, as capacitive ones; and we already know that done right, they can support multitouch (vis-a-vis Stantum screens).
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2010-09-28
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Rather hyperbolic.
With all of the people declaring that each and every motherlovin' article that doesn't come from some obscure website that loves every-goshdarn thing that Nokia has done is pushed aside to some USA-centric, Euro-unfriendly, or whatever else is applicable label and not one article that has facts, disputes the successes at the risk of being a bit on the edge of critiquing Nokia... well, I'm waiting on that kind of article.
Nobody wants to admit that some of Nokia's choices have been counter-intuitive and nonsensical in some aspects.
No. So let's see a counter article. Let's see somebody write an article that isn't blind praise, or blind antagonism.
That's my request.
It's a given that the leading trade media is located in the US (or UK) and have shown themselves to be flagrantly biased against Nokia (and many other European companies). What's so hard about highlighting Nokia errors objectively and leaving the needless sensationalism out (*cough engadget* cough gismodo cough*)? Nokia has made plenty of goofs that don't need additional embellishment by fanboys of competitors.
I get a kick out of statements lambasting Nokia defenders (some deservedly) while blithely ignoring the even more egregious acts and statements of others. But it's only fun for so long.
By the way, I've written the sort of article you seek, many times. No acknowledgment? Bummer.
Originally Posted by etuoyo
Geez I wish we could just get past this sort of opinion parading as fact.
Capacitive is far better for the mainstream and so Nokia need to switch to capacitive if they want to make a very successful mass market device and stay relevant at all in the mainstream rather than just the geek community.
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2010-09-29
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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur
Strongly disagree there. My first proper experience of a touch screen was the N97. It was a nightmare (as with everything else with the device) and I returned it after three days. I had bought it to replace my N95 and creative zen mp3. Went back to my N95 and bought an iod touch. The ipod touch screen was super amazing. In three months of owning the device I never ever made a single selection error. It just worked perfectly.
*Sigh* The average consumer won't even care. You tell them capacitive is amazing, they'll cum all over themselves when they get one. You tell them resistive is amazing, they'll do the same for those.
At the end of the day, the mainstream is fickle, and more importantly, rather mindless. I mean, you're on the Maemo forum, no? You felt the N900's screen?
After three months my Apple hatred meant I could not take having an ipod anymore and sold it. Went back my creative zen waiting till the time the N900 came out and it could replace my zen and N95. Yes the N900 screen is good. For a resistive. For me it is still lightyears behind that of the ipod touch and I am pretty sure the general public agrees. Has nothing to do with what they have been told. Yes you can use a stylus but the general public do not even want to have to bring out a stylus. They just want to use their fingers. Yes you can do cool paint stuff but how many care?
You may feel it is US media that has pushed all manufacturers to capacitive screens but I totally disagree. That is just what works better for most. Take someone from the amazon jungle that has never seen a phone before or heard of ipod and give him an N900 and an iphone to try out. Pretty sure he will find the iphone screen easier to use.
