I just upgraded my GF4 driver (software, not hardware) to a Forceware driver last night. This gives the GF4 digital output, enable the 4 yrs old PC to have analogue output to a 6 yrs old monitor and at the sametime, have video output to HDMI port for my brand new Acer H530 projector (The old projector lamp burned out ). Apparantly the GF4 driver stopped at 2005, i used their website to find an updated suitable driver and it worked! yup, a 6 yr old PC mon and a 4yr 64 MB video card..............whats the point? Obsolete or not, depends on the user , I can say my hometheatre system shines among todays unit, even though it is more than a few yrs age.



bun

Ah, gotcha.
The sarcasm filter on this browser needs some fine tuning.

Again: the N800 is NOT being replaced here. This is an alternative version with additional features. I daresay there will be those who prefer using the N810 and vice-versa, with little overlap.

ITs are a quickly developing category. I understand the risks getting involved for the sake of being able to ride the wave of continued evolution and progress.
Go for it Nokia. Stick to your support committments for sure - but don't hold back for the sake of the lowest common denominator.

I haven't heard any backlash. In fact, a few of my friends that had xBox 360s have gone out and upgraded to the newer units for the HDMI connection and the improved cpu cooling. And if introducing a new console is suicide, why did 360 sales spike above wii sales again after the new consoles came out?

Sony did the same thing with both its playstation and PS2, remember the small $99 PS, and then the "slim" version of the PS2?


and you just brought up game consoles.

No one is making you go out and buy a new device. you don't have to upgrade if you don't want to. The 810 architecture is based on the n800, so development on the 800 will continue along side the 810. i really don't see the problem here, other than wanting the newer device just because its newer and has a keyboard, and GPS.

its really just an expanded N800, not a replacement. IMO, I would rather have the opportunity to upgrade my equipment every 6-9 months (if I want too), instead of waiting 2 years for something better. Plus, it means that prices on previous models go way down, so you can pick up a 2nd tier model for much less money (i.e., the 770 I got for $119).

Not sure about the criteria some of you guys applied when buying your iT, but as an 'old dog' consumer, I've come to realise that as long as my needs do not change, the N800 still gets the job done for me.

When I was looking at the N800, I was looking for the following:

A mobile device with decent performance for:

- email -- modest does a great job getting my mails off Gmail IMAP4, as does microB in how it handles Gmail web). The built-in client just doesn't work with Gmail's IMAP4, and it's just a matter of time before final version of modest goes into the next firmware release. Till then, it's not a deal-breaker. While it would be nice to have Exchange Activesync support, my Nokia E51 already gets the job done from that front.

- web browsing -- all the sites I frequent are displayed correctly on microB, no complaints here. Hell, I can even scroll web pages by dragging. I have Facebook, Gmail, YouTube in all its 'natural' glory, and I haven't yet come across a page that wouldn't display right. It would be nice if it would display Japanese fonts, but hey

- memory expansion -- the N800 provides 1 x microSDHC and 1 x SD -- that's more than enough for me)

- media playback -- I re-encode most of what I want to watch to a more space/processor-friendly format, and the N800 plays back my shows on the go. Canola2 is a HUGE bonus, and I can only hope for better performance and better album art support. And the N800 handles OGG as well, in case I should need it (which I don't, for now)

- VoIP and IM -- I'm usually on MSN Messenger and Pidgin gets the job done right. When the Instant Messaging Upgrade becomes more modular and gets the importing of contacts right (perhaps I'm one of the few who is just not getting the incoming contact data correctly -- see my earlier post for more details), I would be happy to use an integrated IM tool. Until then, the built-in client does a great job with Gizmo and GoogleTalk, and Pidgin handles the rest.

In a nutshell, the N800 was able to do all of the above when I bought it, and whether Nokia releases an N900 or not, it doesn't render my N800 functionally obsolete since it continues to do what I bought it for in the first place.

If anything, I would like to get my hands on an N810, just for the keyboard and built-in GPS to toy around with, but that's just for convenience, and doesn't render my N800 obsolete

As for the iPhone, I can't deal with the fact that it does not even have the ability to forward text messages, or to send to multiple recipients, and recognizing this, having a separate phone (E51) and iT device (N800) works exactly how I like it.

Bottom line is, be very clear about what you want to use your device for, and then decide for yourself if it has failed you in any way.

Those who buy the device now in the hope that functions that they need would be added later have clearly bought the wrong device, as do those who are unclear about exactly what they need the device for.

>>It would be nice if it would display Japanese fonts, but hey<<

I am currently reading both Chinese and Japanese pages on my n800.

You're right. Turns out that as I was composing that post, I had just installed the Chinese font pack (which also includes Japanese!) but not yet restarted my browser, so the Japanese text wasn't showing up correctly.

Now, who says the N800 doesn't do what I need it to do?