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2010-10-06
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Originally Posted by NvyUs
That is quite an impressive number. Maemo Downloads only serves some 1-1.5 million downloads per week at this point.
Ovi store is now growing into something big and are now at 2.5 million downloads a day.
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2010-10-06
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Originally Posted by bergie
wait a minute... 17.5 mio downloads a week for a store that serves almost all nokia phones (S40, S60, Symbian^3, N900) and features sophisticated commercial software vs. 1-1.5 mio downloads a week for the maemo community repos?
Originally Posted by NvyUsThat is quite an impressive number. Maemo Downloads only serves some 1-1.5 million downloads per week at this point.Ovi store is now growing into something big and are now at 2.5 million downloads a day.
is it only me who feels that - seeing these 2 figures - the ovi store download numbers aren't all that impressive? (or the other way round: the community repos are even more successful than i'd have ever thought?)
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2010-10-06
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Originally Posted by NvyUs
Not really. I use S60 as my main phone OS - and I really tried hard to use Ovi services. Store and maps are OK, but the rest... awful. Plus they're not integrated at all.
everyone on here judges Ovi services by the sorry state they are on Maemo 5, which is unfair b/c ....
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2010-10-06
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Originally Posted by benny1967
Bear in mind when thinking things like that that Maemo is, at its heart, an enthusiast platform, and enthusiasts like to tinker. That means more installs, and even more reinstalls when someone screws their device and reflashes. That, and, not everything Nokia sells is a smartphone which requires millions of applications.
is it only me who feels that - seeing these 2 figures - the ovi store download numbers aren't all that impressive? (or the other way round: the community repos are even more successful than i'd have ever thought?)
Make no mistake, despite the download number, Maemo is (in terms of released products) still a tiny drop in the pond.
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2010-10-06
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Ovi store debacle aside, its natural for VPs to leave when big boss leaves. Nokia needs to start learning from North American companies, one how to give powerful presentations, two how to add bling on top of your OS, third, you dont stab your own customers
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2010-10-06
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Originally Posted by niqbal
Dont want "magic" presentaions. That's emarrassing - like watching a home shopping channel.
Ovi store debacle aside, its natural for VPs to leave when big boss leaves. Nokia needs to start learning from North American companies, one how to give powerful presentations, two how to add bling on top of your OS, third, you dont stab your own customers
Don't want "bling" - useless. That's for teenage girls.
Don't wanna be stabbed... but above all: don't wanna be enchained, either.
Both Ari Jaaksi and Anssi Vanjoki were extraordinarily trustworthy because of how they communicated. No magic, no bling, just say what you need to say and leave the stage. When one of them said "I think this device is quite OK. Not bad.", I knew I needed to buy it now. When some of the "North American" executives talk about "magic", "innovation", "absolute beauty", "<non-existant word> display",... my immediate reaction is: "Hey, what's he trying to hide? This is just a kitchen knife, why should it cut tomatoes better than others?" I don't trust such people and I don't buy from them. In fact, I've learned they never deliver. They need such embarrassing wording because there's nothing else they have to offer.
My great fear is that once people like Ari and Anssi are gone, the cheap marketeers will fill their places and we'll never see a serious, long.term strategy from Nokia again... nor brilliant devices. It'll just be average, like the rest of the market.
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2010-10-06
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Originally Posted by techngro
iOS doesn't come with an adblocker by default, and one must jailbreak to get this functionality. Now, we can argue whether this is mandatory to get proper functionality. I'll speak for myself and say I do not wish to see graphical advertisement on my lil device. I believe the amount of tweaks a Nokia N900 needs is more than the average iOS or Android device, and I'm willing to agree some applications are more polished one or another, but I do not agree iOS and Android only get 'hacked' or 'tweaked' for 'fun'. My Android device will need some lagfixes, too. To be precise: I don't hack a production device 'for fun'.
The difference between an N900 running Maemo and a device running iOS or Android is that, with the N900, you absolutely HAVE to hack/install programs to bring it up to a proper level of functionality, whereas with iOS or Android, you hack/install programs just for fun.
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2010-10-06
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Originally Posted by benny1967
I agree but we are not average people; many, if not most people fall into the marketing babblespeak.
Dont want "magic" presentaions. That's emarrassing - like watching a home shopping channel.
Don't want "bling" - useless. That's for teenage girls.
Don't wanna be stabbed... but above all: don't wanna be enchained, either.
Both Ari Jaaksi and Anssi Vanjoki were extraordinarily trustworthy because of how they communicated. No magic, no bling, just say what you need to say and leave the stage. When one of them said "I think this device is quite OK. Not bad.", I knew I needed to buy it now. When some of the "North American" executives talk about "magic", "innovation", "absolute beauty", "<non-existant word> display",... my immediate reaction is: "Hey, what's he trying to hide? This is just a kitchen knife, why should it cut tomatoes better than others?" I don't trust such people and I don't buy from them. In fact, I've learned they never deliver. They need such embarrassing wording because there's nothing else they have to offer.
My great fear is that once people like Ari and Anssi are gone, the cheap marketeers will fill their places and we'll never see a serious, long.term strategy from Nokia again... nor brilliant devices. It'll just be average, like the rest of the market.
It just rocks if it isn't there because you don't have to filter it out which requires some energy and frustration. However, just because 'it' is there doesn't mean the product is crap.
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2010-10-06
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Not à great surprise if you consider the state that Nokia is in. THE whole Internet Tablet is one great failure. Great hardware, poor OS and software. There are some great devices on THE market today, none of them Nokia's. Jaaksi made a smart choice by leaving.
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Why? Because those positions are "trust" positions. They carry big power on themselves; and are very attached to the big boss.
In a lot of cases this is merely symbolic, in others it is taken to the letter.
You also have to consider how finns must feel about a NA guy taking the reins... I have heard rumors that, internally, people at Nokia blame the USA division of the failures in that market, and in consequence the bad press Symbian receives. So imagine this same people getting told that a NA guy is coming to take over. Madness.
IMO, the CEO position was for Vanjoki. And Elop could have been his VP and right hand. So you have a guy with a clear vision and powerful background at the helm; and a new guy with a fresh perspective as his right hand to make the slight corrections the course needs.
And I swear that, if because of Elop, Nokia goes Android without giving MeeGo a fair chance, I will never, ever, buy anything from them again.
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