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2010-10-20 , 18:42
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who said the SW must be released?
 
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2010-10-20 , 18:51
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#62
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who said the SW must be released?
Nobody, but you can't re-distribute your application (besides internal use purposes) if it's GPLed without releasing the sources as well.
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2010-10-20 , 19:02
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#63
Hi,

Seeing that I'm quoted here I'd like to correct the people who think it is 12,5K. It's 25K because the price money was USD 50.000 split in half because 2 projects won. http://www.callingallinnovators.com/ tells it all.

That site also says
Other valuable prizes

* Spotlight: The Grand Prize winner in each category will receive Spotlight Placement in Nokia’s Ovi Store to help promote the winning application to consumers using Nokia devices worldwide
.

So maybe, just maybe it realy is stuck in ovi limbo

Hope Fabian tells us soon what will happen with this app, because I would love to see it on my N900.

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2010-10-22 , 13:17
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#64
its now in the store http://store.ovi.com/content/51934
3 quid in UK
 

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its now in the store http://store.ovi.com/content/51934
3 quid in UK
If there is GPLed code inside, the sources would also have to be released to those who bought it, don't they?
 

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The hope was that the council would contact Nokia about the situation and get some answers.
Someone would need to raise the issue with the council, perhaps by emailing council@maemo.org. We don't magically appear in threads which mention our name.

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If there is GPLed code inside, the sources would also have to be released to those who bought it, don't they?
Yes, if there is code licensed under the GPL in there, people who receive the binary have a right to ask for the source. If he owns all the copyright for the code he's shipping, though, he could have relicensed those files for his own purposes.
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Someone would need to raise the issue with the council, perhaps by emailing council@maemo.org. We don't magically appear in threads which mention our name.
well.... that's something you could work on then


EDIT: uhm... just in case: this was meant as a joke ŕ la "learn to fly with a magic carpet", not as a serious comment about council members reading each post.
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Originally Posted by NvyUs View Post
its now in the store http://store.ovi.com/content/51934
3 quid in UK
Good timing, that. I hope Nokia has got something in place to deal with the GPL responsibilities.

Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Someone would need to raise the issue with the council, perhaps by emailing council@maemo.org. We don't magically appear in threads which mention our name.
It's 100% realistic to expect a council member to get around to reading the Community forum of t.m.o. This is actually how we were told to communicate with you, so perhaps you should come to an agreement amongst yourselves on that point.

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In fact, ninety-nine percent of the time, anything that you might want to tell the Council should be done so within the Community forum at talk.maemo.org. This forum is read continually and all important items posed there are acted on very quickly.
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2010-10-22 , 14:53
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Let's not turn this into a metathread - I raised the issue in the Council list.
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2010-10-22 , 15:36
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Yes, if there is code licensed under the GPL in there, people who receive the binary have a right to ask for the source. If he owns all the copyright for the code he's shipping, though, he could have relicensed those files for his own purposes.
I downloaded it (it's an amazing piece of software btw) and checked what he put in the "about" box: It's still GPL, thank god. As far as I know, this doesn't force him to actively distribute the sources with the binary or make them available for download. He just mustn't refuse to send you the code if you ask for it.

Again, though: It's really great. Stunningly beautiful, a lot of options to customize your it, easy to use.... You'll never want to look at the real sky again.

I think € 3,00 is a very fair price for this quality (given I paid € 0,90 for a lousy jpeg image today) and I hope Fabien sees a fair amount of downloads through the store, even if people could get it for free legally. That would be encouraging for those who don't want to give up open development, but don't mind earning a few cents if possible.
 

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