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2010-10-23
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Originally Posted by ladoga
Really?
If you are starving and only have a dollar or a pound in your pocket. is it ok to steal your lunch?
Ofcourse it is.
That's the only one solution out of his problem?
This sort of narrowminded approach, justifying all kinds of immoral shortcuts is an ongoing theme that I notice.
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2010-10-23
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#253
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Originally Posted by ysss
Alignment: pragmatist
Really?
That's the only one solution out of his problem?
This sort of narrowminded approach, justifying all kinds of immoral shortcuts is an ongoing theme that I notice.
That is the ONLY pragmatic solution to the problem. Every other solution is directly or indirectly based on some kind of moral code (as well as information not given in the question). Just thought I should mention it 
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2010-10-23
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Originally Posted by ericsson
I think this 'problem' is also tied to the 'performance' of said person.
Alignment: pragmatist
A 'lazy guy' (as in, lazy to think) is more likely to take the shortcut and 'steal'.
There are unlimited ways to be creative and improve one's life, including enabling them to acquire said software license for less/free (lots of ways already discussed in this thread) or to accomplish the same via other methods (foss software for one).
Justification comes after the intention. It's an excuse really.
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2010-10-23
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#255
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Originally Posted by ysss
You are simply spinning up a story that is not included in the question, and then you are only justifying your own prejudicial assumptions of what makes people steal. That's how I see it.
I think this 'problem' is also tied to the 'performance' of said person.
A 'lazy guy' (as in, lazy to think) is more likely to take the shortcut and 'steal'.
There are unlimited ways to be creative and improve one's life, including enabling them to acquire said software license for less/free (lots of ways already discussed in this thread) or to accomplish the same via other methods (foss software for one).
Justification comes after the intention. It's an excuse really.
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2010-10-23
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alot of people do things that they should not do. from those sitting at the top of the pyramid to those down on the bottom.
yesterday wiki leaks website released documents about about wrong doers that swore blind to the masses that they were doing right. i guess alot of those people will have to face what will become of them.
my answer to all this is quit simple. do what needs to be done to acheive the required goal. however should you be caught because of greed or wanting of more then too be prepared for what will become of you.
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yesterday wiki leaks website released documents about about wrong doers that swore blind to the masses that they were doing right. i guess alot of those people will have to face what will become of them.
my answer to all this is quit simple. do what needs to be done to acheive the required goal. however should you be caught because of greed or wanting of more then too be prepared for what will become of you.
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2010-10-23
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#257
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Anyone changed their mind on this yet?
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2010-10-24
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Oh definitely!! I totally changed my opinion about half-way through.. but then like 4 pages later I got convinced the other way again.
Anyone changed their mind on this yet?
This is all just.. so confusing
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2010-10-24
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Originally Posted by Texrat
Yeah. I came in thinking there were enough intellectually honest folk here, on both sides, to have an interesting discussion, in spite of the polarizing topic and the assumptions built into the phrasing of the question.
Anyone changed their mind on this yet?
Definitely changed my mind...
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2010-10-24
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
Here, we get "free" health, but it's not really free. What we have is mandatory health insurance, meaning, as long as you pay up a part of your salary (they keep it without asking), you're entitled to help - a system based on the redistribution of resources.
Well hell, apparently they should get free health care... so why not?
However, stop working, and you get welfare, health help, all kinds of nice stuff for a while. Once the grace period is up, you're on your own (minus emergencies).
This is different from "free".
Others may do things differently, such as not require its citizens to pay directly, still, infrastructures cost effort and materials, and that is money. Someone pays for it, one way or another.
This isn't the case with software and music. It really is free in a lot of cases.
Originally Posted by fatalsaint
Bad wording. Bad, bad wording. Idea got through, though, I hope.
However, there's a difference in "forcefully" fed and getting food for free. I don't think anybody mentioned forcing someone else to do something.
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