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2011-02-15 , 19:17
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Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
OK, Allright. I take the blame totally. I kept thinking I will develop for QT and learn QML. But there was just one device to target to, and in between by day job (which pays), I had to take time off to learn and develop for a one-device target - whioch wouldnt even pay, and wouldnt even guarantee thet the technolo0gy wouldnt change again on me.

But again it was ME who didnt develop for QT and hence Nokia- absolutely not to blame.

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Hey, mr-just-one-device genius: just so you know, Qt happens to be the most popular and widely known desktop GUI toolkit in the world, and that's including Microsoft offerings like MFC and .Net.
 

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2011-02-15 , 19:39
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2011-02-15 , 19:50
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I swear. All this cries for apps and apps and apps. Nokia saw this and thought - hmmm do we have any chance making tons and tons of apps for MeeGo, and do it fast?

The answer was NO

Then all these cries for ecosystems. Again - any chance of making a great ecosystem with MeeGo, and do it fast? - NO
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2011-02-15 , 19:52
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Where did I put that, oh yes here it is..

 

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2011-02-15 , 19:53
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Yep @OP is right, that null pointer crashed it completely
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2011-02-15 , 20:26
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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
I swear. All this cries for apps and apps and apps. Nokia saw this and thought - hmmm do we have any chance making tons and tons of apps for MeeGo, and do it fast?

The answer was NO

Then all these cries for ecosystems. Again - any chance of making a great ecosystem with MeeGo, and do it fast? - NO
I've laughed so much I almost wet myself! What a prat! Like blaming the guy that had his car stolen for having the car!
 
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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
I swear. All this cries for apps and apps and apps. Nokia saw this and thought - hmmm do we have any chance making tons and tons of apps for MeeGo, and do it fast?

The answer was NO

Then all these cries for ecosystems. Again - any chance of making a great ecosystem with MeeGo, and do it fast? - NO
The license for Alien Dalvik costs surely less than a license to WP7.
Also, why not develop FOSS Dalvik for Meego.

Android has two years of ahead start with application development. There is no chance it can be archived if Meego won't be able to run Android-apps. Now there is at least one solution: Alien Dalvik.

Besides, there are lots of developers who chose Android just because they can develop in Java. But many of them would like to have "real" Linux on bottom, and not the cribbled Android-Linux.
I would assume, Meego+Dalvik would be a real winner if the hardware was right (dual-core CPU, 1GB RAM, 8MP camera, digital compass, gyroscope, xyz-accelometer and so on.)
 

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2011-02-15 , 21:00
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Originally Posted by tkatchev View Post
Hey, mr-just-one-device genius: just so you know, Qt happens to be the most popular and widely known desktop GUI toolkit in the world, and that's including Microsoft offerings like MFC and .Net.
You're dreaming.
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2011-02-15 , 21:09
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The license for Alien Dalvik costs surely less than a license to WP7.
Also, why not develop FOSS Dalvik for Meego.

Android has two years of ahead start with application development. There is no chance it can be archived if Meego won't be able to run Android-apps. Now there is at least one solution: Alien Dalvik.

Besides, there are lots of developers who chose Android just because they can develop in Java. But many of them would like to have "real" Linux on bottom, and not the cribbled Android-Linux.
I would assume, Meego+Dalvik would be a real winner if the hardware was right (dual-core CPU, 1GB RAM, 8MP camera, digital compass, gyroscope, xyz-accelometer and so on.)
Compatibility makes no sense if you're on the bottom. If you're the dominant player, you can say "See, we even run the other guy's apps, so we run everything! There's now no point going with the other little guy" If you're the minority player, adding compatibility with the big guy is seen as just acknowledging your minority status. If Meego runs Android apps, why not just use Android? Why develop specifically for MeeGo? And if no one's developing specifically for MeeGo, consumers will want to know why they should by a MeeGo phone instead of Android. As Harry Truman said, "When a Republican runs against a Republican, the Republican wins every time." Or as Michael Kinsley wrote "The slogan 'I'm just like the other guy, except a little bit different' is hardly inspiring."

And lastly, why should Nokia pay all the R&D costs to build and maintain MeeGo, pay to install Alien Dalvik, and let Google make money from the app store sales that they'll then channel into competing with you? Why not just put Android on for nothing and save all the R&D costs and licensing fees?
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