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hi dear friend marcelo

how are ya? do u remember me?

well i am still on my old problem and beta1


is there a new way for me?


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#92
Just wanted to give an update on this. I succesfully installed latest canola and the upnp plugin. I had to first install canola-clean and run that. After I did that, all was well.

I tried the latest canola with mythtv server upnp. I was able to get a listing of all my recordings, and start the streaming and playing of any of them. The issue that I did have was that the video seemed unable to play. I would see a frame, then a pause for several seconds, then another frame. I don't know if it is an issue with canola, the player, the streaming, mythtv, or the fact that the videos are 720x480 at around 7000 kb/s (likely the last, I am assuming).


Originally Posted by psunittany View Post
Hello. I have been reading this forum for a while, but I have never posted. I hope someone can direct me to be able to install the latest Canola beta on my N800 (Chinook), so that I can try out the UPNP.

If I try to update my Canola2 install, it fails claiming a dependency on liblightmediascanner0. I have not been able to find a version of this that will install on canook. Can someone please direct me to how I can get this updated, and install the UPNP plugin to test it out.

I will admit that I hope to use this with my MythTV backend. I will try to avoid getting into any of the battles going on in this forum over MythTV. Just some info concerning the latest MythTV UPNP. I can easily access the MythTV UPNP server from my PS3. I can access and stream any recordings and most videos. The one issue that I have seen with recent MythTV (which is likely on the MythTV end), is that they only have 1 or 2 levels down for a shared directory structure. So, basically, if you have a videos folder that is being shared out with subfolders (ex. HomeMovies, TV, etc). It will show all videos at the root directory level as well as show all the folders, but if I try to browse down into one of the folders, it says that there are no videos available. Though I don't know it for a fact, I do believe that MythTV is pretty close (if not direct) in supporting the UPNP standard, since the PS3 UPNP support would never have explicitly put in support for MythTV directly (outside of installing Linux on the PS3).

The main thing for me is: Can someone help with the latest Canola (and UPNP plugin) install on an N800 with chinook? Many thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by psunittany
tried the latest canola with mythtv server upnp. I was able to get a listing of all my recordings, and start the streaming and playing of any of them.
First, let me say that I am in agreement with your earlier assessment of the UPnP implementation in MythTV... it has been my experience, as well, that most applications supporting UPnP seem to treat it as any other media server, so I doubt there's any fundamental flaw in the MythTV implementation that would cause problems in the connecting client software.

That said, if you've gotten it to list out your videos and start the streaming process, then you've progressed further along than I did, and you've conquered 99.9% of the UPnP portion of the equation...

Originally Posted by psunittany
I don't know if it is an issue with canola, the player, the streaming, mythtv, or the fact that the videos are 720x480 at around 7000 kb/s (likely the last, I am assuming).
Here, I would state that the video bitrate is definitely a problem -- perhaps not the only one, but that resolution and bitrate alone are going to keep that video from playing smoothly on your tablet. (if you were to copy the video directly to your tablet, you'd probably see the same exact behavior trying to play it in mplayer via the command line...).

I would recommend rigging up a script on your mythtv box to automatically transcode your recordings to something closer to an appropriate resolution/bitrate for the tablet. You can set it up as a post-recording task (either before or after comm-flagging) to run automatically from MythTV, or you can manually kick off a transcode script on specific recordings you want to watch via the tablet.

To that end, you can set up something using mencoder (probably already installed on your MythTV system) and work out the appropriate command line parameters, or you can adapt the tablet_encode application (referenced on this board fairly often) to handle the task.
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Originally Posted by briand View Post
First, let me say that I am in agreement with your earlier assessment of the UPnP implementation in MythTV... it has been my experience, as well, that most applications supporting UPnP seem to treat it as any other media server, so I doubt there's any fundamental flaw in the MythTV implementation that would cause problems in the connecting client software.

That said, if you've gotten it to list out your videos and start the streaming process, then you've progressed further along than I did, and you've conquered 99.9% of the UPnP portion of the equation...

Here, I would state that the video bitrate is definitely a problem -- perhaps not the only one, but that resolution and bitrate alone are going to keep that video from playing smoothly on your tablet. (if you were to copy the video directly to your tablet, you'd probably see the same exact behavior trying to play it in mplayer via the command line...).

I would recommend rigging up a script on your mythtv box to automatically transcode your recordings to something closer to an appropriate resolution/bitrate for the tablet. You can set it up as a post-recording task (either before or after comm-flagging) to run automatically from MythTV, or you can manually kick off a transcode script on specific recordings you want to watch via the tablet.

To that end, you can set up something using mencoder (probably already installed on your MythTV system) and work out the appropriate command line parameters, or you can adapt the tablet_encode application (referenced on this board fairly often) to handle the task.
Yep. I had no problems with the listings after installing canola. Also, I already have a script to do the transcoding. I would use it, then sftp the video onto my n800. I was hoping that the n800 would support the playing of the full size stream (though, I didn't think it would). I will probably start using the script again. I will run some tests within the next few days and let you know if I can successfully stream the videos with canola.

I have an additional mythtv upnp question for you: mythvideo seems to only share out 1 level of folders for the the videos. I have a setup of something along the lines of /mythtv/videos/tv, for instance. The mythtv server only shares out the /mythtv/videos folder level. If I look at the listing via upnp (via PS3 for instance), I can only see the "tv" folder. Once I go into the folder, it says that the folder is empty. Is there a way of adjusting the level of sharing? Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by psunittany
I have an additional mythtv upnp question for you: mythvideo seems to only share out 1 level of folders for the the videos. I have a setup of something along the lines of /mythtv/videos/tv, for instance. The mythtv server only shares out the /mythtv/videos folder level. If I look at the listing via upnp (via PS3 for instance), I can only see the "tv" folder. Once I go into the folder, it says that the folder is empty. Is there a way of adjusting the level of sharing?
It sounds like you're describing the exact situation in ticket #4914... (which was confined to the mythvideo plugin)... that ticket was closed in 0.21-fixes back in March (16557). What version of MythTV do you have installed?
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Originally Posted by briand View Post
It sounds like you're describing the exact situation in ticket #4914... (which was confined to the mythvideo plugin)... that ticket was closed in 0.21-fixes back in March (16557). What version of MythTV do you have installed?
Not sure (will have to check). It is the latest in the Gutsy Gibbon repositories (did not compile myself (this time - that will teach me) ).
 
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Due to some reason (I don't remember why) it is not available for OS 2006. There are other alternatives for accessing UPnP on OS 2006, though.
 
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I just installed Canola 2.0.0 beta9 and the UPNP plug-in v0.1.1 on my N810 (OS2008), and everything looks good - except that I can't scroll through the lists on the media server - no scroller is displayed, and trying to drag the list up or down with stylus or finger has no effect. Scrolling is fine with all the other media sources (local library,YouTube, iradio, etc), it's just the media server lists that won't scroll

Is there some secret key combination to scroll media server lists? Is this a known bug? or am I being very dumb (I am a little hung-over ) ?
 
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Originally Posted by dlorde View Post
I just installed Canola 2.0.0 beta9 and the UPNP plug-in v0.1.1 on my N810 (OS2008), and everything looks good - except that I can't scroll through the lists on the media server - no scroller is displayed, and trying to drag the list up or down with stylus or finger has no effect. Scrolling is fine with all the other media sources (local library,YouTube, iradio, etc), it's just the media server lists that won't scroll

Is there some secret key combination to scroll media server lists? Is this a known bug? or am I being very dumb (I am a little hung-over ) ?
Scrolling should work just like anywhere else. Maybe the UPnP plugin died while reading the directory contents so that you don't see more items than fit on screen. I experienced this quite often that folders are displayed empty or only with a few items.
 
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Originally Posted by handful View Post
yok : divx are not supported. You can try using another enconding on the server or some transconding to better formats (better to the tablet playback I mean) than divX.

Marcelo
Marcelo,

can you recommend a compatible server for the intel mac which could transcode my divx/xvid files on the fly?

I have also tried to just rename some of the avi-files to mpg (just like yok3 did) and some of them played with like 10-20 seconds delay on start (was testing elgato eyeconnect).

If you need a volunteer for divx streaming testing, I can try it with Twonky or Elgato products, just give me a shout.

Thanks!

PS. If using DLNA instead of the broader defined UPNP would solve many issues, are you guys considering switching to sole DLNA support instead of UPNP?
 
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