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geneven is offline geneven
2010-02-16 , 21:35
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Interesting, thanks for the clarification. I could swear that people buy prepaid Tracphones without paying $35 initialization fees. Does Tracphone have some kind of magic that allows them to do this tricky reservation of circuits for nothing? In fact, come to think of it, I currently have a Tmobile sim for a prepaid phone! I don't think it cost me a $35 initialization fee. How did my circuit get reserved?

Edit: Confirmed. You can buy a tracphone for $19.99, including 20 minutes of talk time to start with. How much does tracphone pay to initialize and reserve the circuit?
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colnago is offline colnago
2010-02-16 , 22:09
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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
Interesting, thanks for the clarification. I could swear that people buy prepaid Tracphones without paying $35 initialization fees. Does Tracphone have some kind of magic that allows them to do this tricky reservation of circuits for nothing? In fact, come to think of it, I currently have a Tmobile sim for a prepaid phone! I don't think it cost me a $35 initialization fee. How did my circuit get reserved?

Edit: Confirmed. You can buy a tracphone for $19.99, including 20 minutes of talk time to start with. How much does tracphone pay to initialize and reserve the circuit?
Well "pay as you go" is different than entering into a "monthly service". The thing is however, with some "pay as you go" services, the 30-day clock starts ticking when you purchase the card/phone (AT&T), not just when you start "using" the service. They get you one way or the other.
 
colnago is offline colnago
2010-02-16 , 22:17
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
And people call the UK a rip off? Wow - those are some serious additional charges you guys have to pay! Porting your number from one provider to another in the UK is free and cannot be refused by law - finally our bunch of politicians did something right - well first time for everything!
Actually, I take back the statement about the fee for porting my AT&T number to T-Mobile...I believe it was free (just did it, but was tired from shovelling so I don't remember all the details). I believe there was a fee if I was to port my Vonage number to GVoice though. I will have to pay an early termination fee to cancel that AT&T service however. Paying $149 to have (2) Droids on Verizon for "2 weeks" was a bit pricey as well...had to fight with them to remove an additional $179 "early cancellation fee". Needless to say I was peeved when I got a $300+ "first bill".
 
geneven is offline geneven
2010-02-16 , 22:25
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Originally Posted by colnago View Post
Well "pay as you go" is different than entering into a "monthly service". The thing is however, with some "pay as you go" services, the 30-day clock starts ticking when you purchase the card/phone (AT&T), not just when you start "using" the service. They get you one way or the other.
They don't get you one way or the other. The Tmobil service I have right now charges me $1 plus a fee per minute for every day I use the phone -- and nothing when I don't use the phone. I've had $32 in the account for the last week, for example, because I haven't made anTy calls and therefore owe nothing.

To me, this establishes that the initialization fees are not even standard at Tmobile, let alone industry-wide. And I haven't heard a real explanation of why it costs to initialize a monthly fee and costs some different amount or nothing for a pay as you go. I suspect it means that Tmobile has been able to get away with charging a lot to one group of customers, but competition has prevented them from doing the same with another group of customers.

In other words, if Tmobile starting telling customers they owed an initialization fee for their prepaid phones, there would be a rush of customers out the door.
 
colnago is offline colnago
2010-02-16 , 22:40
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Originally Posted by waleed786
initial activation charges are nothing new, all service providers have them. im just surprised its 35..expected it to be somewhere around 10

Originally Posted by colnago
I paid ~$30 just to get a "new number" on my existing Verizon account. I believe initialization costs are closer to $50 for new accounts.

I paid ~$30 to "port my AT&T cellular number" to T-Mobile.

It costs ~$30 to "port my existing Vonage number" to another VoIP provider's service.

$35 is about the going rate for provisioning a phone number...in the US anyway.

Well "again", I was not responding to you geneven, and your post above waleed's did not mention "pay as you go" accounts, which obviously differ from "long term service" accounts.
 
davetech is offline davetech
2010-03-10 , 22:15
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For you N900 Tmo USA subscribers, and particularly those on non-smartphone plans ($10 unlimited, $6 tzones, etc), do you guys ever tether for your PC (I'm on $10 unlimited), and if so, how much bandwidth per month and how long have you been doing so? I'm thinking about ditching my cable internet and just tethering with the phone since I don't use much bandwidth and rarely ever do any online gaming. The majority of bandwidth activity goes into catching old/missed episodes/hulu/youtube which can take up to about 5-8 GBs per month. I'm curious if Tmo will throttle my bandwidth or charge me extra without warning.
 
texaslabrat is offline texaslabrat
2010-03-10 , 22:23
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Originally Posted by davetech View Post
For you N900 Tmo USA subscribers, and particularly those on non-smartphone plans ($10 unlimited, $6 tzones, etc), do you guys ever tether for your PC (I'm on $10 unlimited), and if so, how much bandwidth per month and how long have you been doing so? I'm thinking about ditching my cable internet and just tethering with the phone since I don't use much bandwidth and rarely ever do any online gaming. The majority of bandwidth activity goes into catching old/missed episodes/hulu/youtube which can take up to about 5-8 GBs per month. I'm curious if Tmo will throttle my bandwidth or charge me extra without warning.
I'm on unlimited family plan (non-smartphone). I occassionally tether my N800 to my N900 and watch my streaming HAVA at work (been doing it for about 3 months now I guess). I've done more than 3GB in a month with no issues. From what I understand, T-mobile doesn't throttle you until you cross 10GB for a month..but I have no documentation with which to back that up.
 
davetech is offline davetech
2010-03-10 , 23:09
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Thanks for the input. What do you base the 10GB threshold on?
 
texaslabrat is offline texaslabrat
2010-03-10 , 23:20
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just based on anecdotal musings from various folks talking on forums for my part..though I'm sure it's buried in some service agreement mumbo jumbo somewhere or perhaps in an internal memo that they use to enforce "excessive usage" clauses.

For instance:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobi...1DAB27EDE22CAE
 

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danx is offline danx
2011-12-06 , 16:20
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i just updated my phone with the lates firmware. i am trying to get to the apn so i can get my 10 dollars a month plan.. is it in my settins? i tried to go to my internet connections but it does not give me the option to put the apn. can someone tell me where i go ? i seemed to forgot.
 
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