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2010-04-12
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Originally Posted by stayloa
Problem is if the answer WAS posted on this forum it would no way look good and the guy was asking for a direct answer so go read all his posts and you will see what i am on about. I know just how it feels to have a expensive mobile stolen and i also know how to change the imei but no way would i ever give out such information.
You say its much easier, but I think we've found from this thread that its not that easy!!
Agree with Matan here - I'm from the UK and I know that the act of doing it is illegal, however talking about it isn't illegal over here, and even so, as Matan said, you can't force your laws, customs and views on other people. Our collonial days are over and long may it stay that way!
Solution? Don't read this thread if you don't like it!!
If he was legitimate he would contact Nokia direct and post a pic of his imei and give a valid reason.
Any talk about changing mobiles identity is going to bring hostile comments no matter what especially from those who have suffered a loss. Your in the UK so you should know already the fight against such activities so why condone it on this community?.
Think long and hard before you condone such talk.
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2010-04-12
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@abill_uk - your personal opinions on this add nothing to the constructive discussion about technical feasibility.
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2010-04-12
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Originally Posted by masterx
Well, reason is that when You buy a phone in Bosnia, You can not be sure that phone is not from other network, that is not stolen from the truck etc. and soled to You. (in this case me). It gets to the shop like all other phones, who knows from where.
For Bosnia, it's a critical mission. I'm not sure from where is my phone and is it legally imported in country.
I can be sure only if I buy phone at local operator. It is not a case, this time. So, will someone help me?
Post a pic of your IMEI and once its been checked out as not stolen just maybe someone will give you some help ok.
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2010-04-12
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Originally Posted by Matan
Let's not mix legitimate and fair here. The EULA of any application will certainly not endorse circumventing DRM, so you're on the slippery slope of Fair Use at best. It sure sucks having your hands tied or applications lost, but that does not automatically grant legitimacy.
IMEI changing has a very legitimate reason - some programs lock themselves to IMEI. If your device is broken and replaced as part of warranty service, or is lost and you decide to get a new one, you suddenly can't use the programs you bought.
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2010-04-12
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Originally Posted by cashclientel
The technical feasability as you put it is very very simple to those who know how but you simply cannot post information like that on ANY forum because the chances are you would probably get a visit from your local police ha ha. It is NOT a personal opinion its about the fight against stolen mobile equipment. The only discussion about changing imei is WHY do you want to change not post how to do it ! omg get a life will you.
@abill_uk - your personal opinions on this add nothing to the constructive discussion about technical feasibility.
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2010-04-12
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
This response sparked a thought in my mind. The real issue with the N900 and TMO is the mixing between your average phone user and the Linux type community. Both sides aren't really familiar with dealing with each other.
omg get a life will you.
Anyway, that's a bit off topic.
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Nokia are a business and have chosen a path of using the OSS community phenomenon to reduce their overheads specifically after sales support and development. Unlike Apple who do the opposite and make a killing from their Applications store.
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2010-04-12
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Originally Posted by cashclientel
Problem with the N900 is the very fact its no way an average mobile and many many average mobile users have bought one then realised the implications of it not doing the job the average user is used too, this is Nokia's fault for releasing a mobile without the basic working functions thats common place in 2010, i could even go so far as to say there is nothing in existance like the N900 in any way or form yet and its come as a shell shock to many many people thats why they are ranting and raving for the firmware to be upgraded.
This response sparked a thought in my mind. The real issue with the N900 and TMO is the mixing between your average phone user and the Linux type community. Both sides aren't really familiar with dealing with each other.
Anyway, that's a bit off topic.
Anyhow i am not having an argument or losing my rag in any way regarding the changing of imei but suffice to say whatever discussion regarding imei it just cannot be changing it without some radical reason because it IS illegal near enough world through now and manufacturers themselves are only too aware of the implications, this is why they will only do this themselves usually so that stolen does not come into the equation in any way or form.
Incidently imei is instantly trackable to its owner or seller so before any talk could possibly take place at least that side of it would have to be proven and out of the way.
Very very sticky subject to talk about .
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2010-04-12
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Which laws govern whether or not it is legal or not to post something online? I say that the laws of the jurisdiction where the information is hosted (e.g. Finland) should apply.
Of course if local law forbids you to share information, it is your responsibility to comply.
I'm not an expert in law, and Finnish law especially, but I think it should be illegal to do criminal acts, but it shouldn't be illegal to write and discuss about them.
Murder, arson, theft are illegal, but you can't arres t me for talking about how they are committed.
Of course if local law forbids you to share information, it is your responsibility to comply.
I'm not an expert in law, and Finnish law especially, but I think it should be illegal to do criminal acts, but it shouldn't be illegal to write and discuss about them.
Murder, arson, theft are illegal, but you can't arres t me for talking about how they are committed.
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2010-04-12
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it's not impossible to change IMEI, I have witnessed someone changing their IMEI on their N95s before, using the debranding software
Solution? Don't read this thread if you don't like it!!