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#91
Originally Posted by chrisp7 View Post
But your logic works both ways.. A flawed assumption that everything is fine with the N900?

It does seem that a lot of die hard Maemo people are burying their heads in the sand. Yes the N900 is generally zippy but can slow down at times.. Id like the N900 OS to be a competitor to Android/iphone one of these days (in terms of bugs/polish/interoperable apps).

Sorry Im not trying to be antagonistic, I just want to improve things.
That is MORE than fine.. no one's complaining because people complain about the N900.. we, me, complain because people BLAME this and that because of the issue.. as if other platforms where issue-free and Nokia did a poor job... while it totally the opposite.
It's an amazing platform, amazing work done (could you believe one day you'd be running a , let's call it, Debian distro on you mobile device?).

I am just flattered by the tones... while it's so simple to simply accept issues and ask them to be fixed.

Where's the issue with that? none, as long as people are friendly.
 
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I'll be perfectly candid: my main concern is around the usb port. Anyone who's read my blog article about it knows why.
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#93
Originally Posted by Lullen View Post
Everywhere I hear people saying that the N900 is so [...bla bla bla bla...] processor can't be that hard can it?
Greaaat!!! just what we needed, another b*tching thread!

Here's the bug reporting site if something doesn't work ok for you: https://bugs.maemo.org/

Report it, it will be investigated and fixed... or maybe you think nokia is busy reading b*tching threads?

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#94
Originally Posted by Laughingstok View Post
Again, "mainstream" n900 owners are a majority that probably should NOT own it. Maemo is a BRAND NEW OS. It's GOING to have problems.
Let's fix that statement:

Maemo is a Computer Thingy (C). It's GOING to have problems.

This is not about being brand new. It is not.

Let's see it easily:

Debian + Gnome = Ubuntu (GTK)
Debian + KDE = Kubuntu (KDE)
Debian + WM = Edubuntu (GTK, GDK, whatever)
Debian + Hildon = Maemo 5 (GTK)

There's nothing really BRAND New here.
But even my Ubuntu 9.10, the latest and greates, desktop has issue.
It's a Computer Thingy. Born to be imperfect.

Everything else you said is fine I think.. just wanted to point this out.
 
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Yeah, latest Bec post can be seen as unfriendly
 
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Maybe it's just you? Mine N900 is fast as Sonic.
 
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#97
Originally Posted by Laughingstok View Post
There is no burying my head in the sand. I can guarantee you I use my Nokia the way it was meant to be used. Business IT-Professional...
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That is where the n900 shines, and is obviously the n900's target audience.

Hell, when the device comes with the shell icon literally in your face on the app menu, it's obvious who the target audience is. I show others the shell and they're like, "Um.. cool."

Obviously not intended for them as they're not IT professionals and have no clue what Linux or even a shell is.
Better define the target of IT Professional more closely then. I suspect you really mean full-on geek. It's certainly not intended for corporate IT use. The fact that Nokia deliberately do not support device locking, remote wipe or any other MS Exchange Security Policies means that connecting with a corporate mail server to synchronise mails, calendars and task lists is out of the question, and is a major factor why the N900 won't get a look in within the Enterprise space.
 

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Originally Posted by Laughingstok View Post
Again, "mainstream" n900 owners are a majority that probably should NOT own it. Maemo is a BRAND NEW OS. It's GOING to have problems.

Nokia is genius. The N900 is landing in the hands of the people they want it to. The people who can TRULY see the implications and power of the device. NOT the people who are going to b!tch because it scrolls a little quirky sometimes....
I love how threads regarding "stickers for the back of your Droid's screen":

http://androidforums.com/motorola-dr...ds-screen.html

...along with threads about "animated wallpaper", get more views and responses than on topics regarding core functioniality and firmware updates.

If those are mainstream concerns, then so be it, but color me happy w/my 900 as its more "issue free" than some of its competitors. Native email client on the Droid (since Android seems to be a measuring stick when discussing Nokia's "upgrade" schedule) is still "fundamentally broken", for both their POP3 and Exchange clients, even after (2) updates. Even though there are not many 900 apps available, I also do not see "as many" apps being used to "replace native 900 apps", because they are "un-usable".
 

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@Laughingstok...

14:06:59 up 2:04, load average: 3.33, 2.75, 2.19

I had to reboot to get a sim card in.

But anyway, can I keep it now?
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Originally Posted by Bec View Post
Greaaat!!! just what we needed, another b*tching thread!

Here's the bug reporting site if something doesn't work ok for you: https://bugs.maemo.org/

Report it, it will be investigated and fixed... or maybe you think nokia is busy reading b*tching threads?
You just seem like an apologetic fanboy, with posts like this, and in other threads. If people want to vent their frustration with their £500 device, not working as expected, they have every right to do so in this forum, without you neglecting their points.
I do contribute to the bug system, but I don't have the time (or the will to spend it if I did), to investigate the root cause of every bug I come across.
 
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