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2010-05-08 , 20:02
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They could release PR1.2 with QT 4.6 and some obvious bug fixes in February. Then they could release PR1.3 in March with more fixes and features that were tested then. Then PR1.4 in April with more features and more bug fixes. Then in May release PR1.5...
Well...if they could do all these releases, then why haven't they? What possible motivation do they have to hold back? Why risk ticking off paying customers and taking a public relations hit? Wouldn't it be in their interest financially and otherwise to do these multiple releases and have this forum and the tech blogs like Eldar Murtazin gushing about what a great job Nokia has done on supporting and improving the N900?

No, there must be still be some serious issues with PR1.2. Nokia has no other reason not to deploy it, no advantage to be gained in waiting. They have plenty of reasons to put it out as soon as possible.

But not until it's fully cooked. Poisoning from an undercooked OTA update with serious problems could really give users - and Nokia - a tummyache that would make the kind of moaning and groaning going on now over just a delay seem like a small burp! Anyway, my N900 is working great. I'm just fine with waiting for a well done PR1.2 however long it takes.

Gotta say...all this complaining is exactly like what I heard in Android forums while waiting for the Cupcake update. And just as childish. Jeeeezzz...get over it! It'll get here when it's ready. No doubt Nokia wants that more than anyone.
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exactly, pr1.1.1 is working just fine for me too
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2010-05-08 , 20:10
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I agree and yes it will be worth waiting for as the N900 does in fact deserve everything Nokia can give it purely as its a first in open development, i just feel sorry for the developers who are being hindered by the delay but i am sure it will come right in the end when the OS is finally de-bugged and proven.
Incidently i have been monitoring the marketing in China of the N900 and wow it is astronomical so the sales derived from that country will follow trend.
I think i am safe to say Nokia will eventually get the N900 to be the flagship they have potrayed it to be.
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2010-05-08 , 20:27
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Originally Posted by Crashdamage View Post
Well...if they could do all these releases, then why haven't they? What possible motivation do they have to hold back? Why risk ticking off paying customers and taking a public relations hit? Wouldn't it be in their interest financially and otherwise to do these multiple releases and have this forum and the tech blogs like Eldar Murtazin gushing about what a great job Nokia has done on supporting and improving the N900?

No, there must be still be some serious issues with PR1.2. Nokia has no other reason not to deploy it, no advantage to be gained in waiting. They have plenty of reasons to put it out as soon as possible.
They chose not to. They chose to move people who worked on Maemo to work on Meego instead.

They don't need this nebolous "PR1.2". We always hear of "hundred of bugs fixed in bugzilla" as a proof that Nokia did not abandon the N900. How hard would it have been to let a programmer sit one afternoon with a list all those bugs, select those of them for which the fix is obviously correct, or is well contained and easy to verify, and release PR1.1.1.2? It's obvious that Nokia don't think that having a lot of bug fixed for the few months until the "real PR1.2" will be ready is not worth one programmer's half a day of work.
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2010-05-08 , 20:30
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Originally Posted by Crashdamage View Post
But not until it's fully cooked. Poisoning from an undercooked OTA update with serious problems could really give users - and Nokia - a tummyache that would make the kind of moaning and groaning going on now over just a delay seem like a small burp!
Ye, it is much better to have phone with bugs for months without possibility of upgrade. These bugs make me really angry..
 
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They chose not to....It's obvious that Nokia don't think that having a lot of bug fixed for the few months until the "real PR1.2" will be ready is not worth one programmer's half a day of work.
That simply does no make common sense, especially for such a large company. Again - "Why risk ticking off paying customers and taking a public relations hit? Wouldn't it be in their interest financially and otherwise to do these multiple releases and have this forum and the tech blogs like Eldar Murtazin gushing about what a great job Nokia has done on supporting and improving the N900?"

All that negativity over "one programmer's half a day of work"? They've paid qgil alone far more than that to fend off FUD.

You're gonna have to come up with a better reason than that. And a possible advantage in creating (uneccesary?) delays. Then maybe I can take your statements seriously. I'm by no means a Nokia fanboi, just trying to be reasonable.
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2010-05-08 , 20:49
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Ye, it is much better to have phone with bugs for months without possibility of upgrade. These bugs make me really angry..
Like I said..."all this complaining is exactly like what I heard in Android forums while waiting for the Cupcake update." And I bet if I checked some iPhone forums there would be complaints about not having the 4G update yet.

Nokia, Apple, HTC, Android - doesn't mater, it's always the same stuff. Basically variations on the theme 'I want it all and I want it now!' Or like Louis CK says - "Everything's amazing, nobody's happy."
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That simply does no make common sense, especially for such a large company. Again - "Why risk ticking off paying customers and taking a public relations hit?
Why release the N900 in Hong Kong with something greater than PR1.1.1? They obviously have something stable to release on new devices there. Perhaps there are issues with OTA updates. But, none of the information that is out there points to that, just fixing more bugs they created. Sure, more room on root would be nice (not necessary, but nice), couldn't that come as 1.3? And get a lot of bug fixes out sooner rather than later?

I still think they're waiting on something specific to occur. In the meantime they continue to tweak.
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I still think they're waiting on something specific to occur. In the meantime they continue to tweak.
Yes, that does seem to be the case.

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Maybe they are waiting to see what will happen with Flash with all the goings on with Apple & Microsoft, and if Nokia follow suit to then they might not have to fix the speed issues with Flash
 
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