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What is being developed on top includes Ovi apps and services that are part of the Nokia differentiation as MeeGo vendor.
I hope this does not mean, MeeGo Harmattan applications are as
closed source as Fremantle Applications.
I am talking about applications like Call-UI, Camera-UI, Contacts,
Conversations, MediaPlayer, ....

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It really depends how much of the Nokia version will be closed source/proprietary. E.g. OVI Services, OVI Maps, Flash and UI "Skin".
I suspect the majority of Nokia's proprietary layer will be just that: proprietary and closed. Everything which is open source will be in MeeGo, everything else will be Nokia controlled and closed.
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All we can do is wait and see what is released during October MeeGo Handset UX.

Then see what happens when Nokia release their "flavour" of MeeGo.
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2010-09-01 , 13:55
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#94
Originally Posted by nicolai View Post
I hope this does not mean, MeeGo Harmattan applications are as
closed source as Fremantle Applications.
I am talking about applications like Call-UI, Camera-UI, Contacts,
Conversations, MediaPlayer, ....

regards
Nicolai

If we are talking about stuff like Contacts or MediaPlayer then anyone can write / install their own versions.

The problem is hardware drivers. E.g. graphic acceleration, camera and call functionality.

Thankfully most of the hardware drivers are open source (e.g. call functionality - see nitdroid and camera functions - see fcam).
I think the graphic drivers are the property of a third-party and is highly unlikely we'll see an open source version of that but maybe be allowed to distribute it under a "redistribution license".

Who knows? Nokia knows but is not saying anything (as usual).
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Actually, you can install a working MeeGo on N900 right now -

http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900

Just don't forget to install a closed-source Nokia components from

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

It has uSD image and a new kernel binary.
 

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#96
Originally Posted by nicolai View Post
I hope this does not mean, MeeGo Harmattan applications are as
closed source as Fremantle Applications.
I am talking about applications like Call-UI, Camera-UI, Contacts,
Conversations, MediaPlayer, ....
We'll see. In any case the MeeGo project *is* developing open Call-UI, Camera-UI, Contacts, Conversations, MediaPlayer...

You have the option to contribute to those open source projects making them so great that no vendor feels tempted to put their investment in a poorer or just equivalent alternative.
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hmmmm i cant wait to see what nokia is packing but if they want to take back the phone scene they realy need to fix up

ne way at nokia world what are we going to see?
 
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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Looking at the architecture at http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture you can't find actually many components that are not present in Maemo or MeeGo-Harmattan (provisional name). In fact that stack is also far away from Moblin. Of course we can discuss better on these details once MeeGo-Harmattan is out.

Comparing the current MeeGo-Handset vanilla with Maemo 5 final productized by Nokia is unfair. If you remember the first Fremantle releases they were also judged as unimpressive by many or most people around here.

Heavy work is going on to bring MeeGo and MeeGo-Harmattan releases out.
Sorry qgil, but even with PR1.2 Maemo is far from being "final"... So it's a bit hard to swallow the fact that MeeGo/Harmattan is going to be different... I mean withou this great community Maemo 5 would've been an embarrassment...

Anyways, time will tell..

@egoshin, Can I dual boot into MeeGo?
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Originally Posted by daperl View Post
This image file lists 14 different devices:

/etc/meegotouch/devices.conf

The last one is interesting.
Could you post the contents of that file?
 
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Originally Posted by mokkey View Post
hmmmm i cant wait to see what nokia is packing but if they want to take back the phone scene they realy need to fix up

ne way at nokia world what are we going to see?
well people on this forum are hoping to see a glimpse of the nokia N9 or better and a lot of meego.

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Is it possible to watch these nokia world conferences/keynotes if u want to call it that. online, live stream? plz if yes let me know where!!!

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