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Rugoz is offline Rugoz
2011-06-27 , 13:33
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#91
actually there is a lot happening out of your sight, but still completely publically inside nokia.
nokia life tools? that really old news.

the more I think about the wp7 decision the more I'm pissed about it. Wp7 is nowhere near a complete OS and lacks critical features. How much worse could meego be? Don't get it. Then look at the r&d nokia spends on Meego, its definitely not the world.
 
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2011-06-27 , 13:39
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#92
OMG and HA-HA. If Nokia drops MeeGo and stucks with WP7 it will be gigantic mistake.

I found these from Twitter just minute ago (in addition to Engadget praising etc)

- Cult of Mac (yeah, cult of mac): http://www.cultofmac.com/things-to-a...opinion/102107 (read commentary also)

- http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2959-...-is-all-i-need

And finally: Luovanto tweeted that 38% of visitors at swipe.nokia.com comes from United States.

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2011-06-27 , 14:12
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#93
Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
You seem to be implying that Nokia won't sell a Linux-based device in a country unless they've established a special Linux support center there. Am I misunderstanding you?
The choice of countries is interesting. Some of the countries is quite expected either because of population or average GDP:
- China (population)
- Vietnam (population)
- Russia (population)
- Australia
- Austria
- Finland
- Sweden
- Switzerland
- Portugal
- Slovenia

The surprising thing is that some of the countries were missed out:
- US
- UK
- France
- Germany
- ...

But there are some unusual countries where average monthly income is well bellow the suspected price tag:
- Romania
- Bulgaria
- Serbia
- Croatia
- ...

Except for Romania (~20m), all of the later are countries are really small markets. Combined with the low average income this makes it poor place to promote high-price-tag devices. Even today the S40 is actually ruling those markets.

Bare in mind that in most of these countries support is really rudimentary. My guess is that legal conditions allow Nokia to experiment there with less of legal liabilities.

What do you make of this country list?
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2011-06-27 , 14:14
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#94
Originally Posted by larux View Post
And finally: Luovanto tweeted that 38% of visitors at swipe.nokia.com comes from United States.
You mean Engadget?
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2011-06-27 , 15:14
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#95
Originally Posted by momcilo View Post

But there are some unusual countries where average monthly income is well bellow the suspected price tag:
- Romania
- Bulgaria
- Serbia
- Croatia
- ...
You have no idea how many high end phones are sold in these countries. People are not gonna buy bread to eat, but buy Iphone 4, E7, Galaxy S2. Lots of people will buy the N9.

Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
The surprising thing is that some of the countries were missed out:
- US
- UK
- France
- Germany
- ...
I would also add Netherlands to this list, very large market for Nokia. It sucks that it won't sell in the US, since it really did show outrageous amount of interest in the MeeGo device. Elop should be fired immediately if Nokia is to survive. He is trying not to sell in Nokia markets in order to justify inadequate demand for the N9 and support his WP7 contract.
 

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2011-06-27 , 15:44
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#96
Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
The choice of countries is interesting.
...
The surprising thing is that some of the countries were missed out:
...
What do you make of this country list?
As has been pointed out in these forums before, that page almost certainly isn't a list of all the countries where the N9 will be released (unless anyone has an update?)
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2011-06-27 , 15:55
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Originally Posted by shallimus View Post
As has been pointed out in these forums before, that page almost certainly isn't a list of all the countries where the N9 will be released (unless anyone has an update?)
There is a Nokia shop in Germany while there is no Nokia shop in neither Austria nor Switzerland. How can the closure of the UK Nokia online shop be anyhow related to the N9 not beeing released in the UK, while the N9 will be released in both Austria and Switzerland (in these two countries Nokia does not offer online shopping) but not in Germany (where Nokia could easily sell the N9 through their German online shop)??
Btw: I`ve just realized that the N900 is obviously not available any longer, neither in the Nokia online shop nor through Skype (http://shop.skype.com/intl/de/phones/).
Hopefully, Skype will offer the N9 as well. However, since Skype belongs to Microsoft now, I rather doubt that.
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2011-06-27 , 16:57
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Btw: I`ve just realized that the N900 is obviously not available any longer, neither in the Nokia online shop nor through Skype
Yup. Nokia has declared EOL for the N900 Maemo series:
http://www.nokiausa.com/find-product...a-n900/n900eol

When did that happen?
 
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2011-06-27 , 16:57
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Originally Posted by inte View Post
There is a Nokia shop in Germany while there is no Nokia shop in neither Austria nor Switzerland. How can the closure of the UK Nokia online shop be anyhow related to the N9 not beeing released in the UK, while the N9 will be released in both Austria and Switzerland (in these two countries Nokia does not offer online shopping) but not in Germany (where Nokia could easily sell the N9 through their German online shop)??
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I see your point. I guess we'll just have to wait for a coherent message from Nokia .

That list looks pretty crappy, though. The "Switzerlang" typo has been there for almost a week uncorrected.
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2011-06-28 , 00:14
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By the way, does anybody here remeber the legendary Palm Foleo?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Foleo

It was a Linux based netbook that was ready to hit the stores in 2007, just before the netbook boom began. The project was abandoned by Palm last minute - and we all know what happend to Palm later - they completely missed the Netbook boom and eventually went into bancrypty.

For me it seems obvious that Nokia has choosen the same direction.
 

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