Originally Posted by Megacrazy

Exactly.

To answer other questions I am not a troll. The review I posted is the what the average consumer will say. Who cares if it can run Open Office it can't scroll smoothly in the damn browser? It's called user experience and Nokia should look it up.

Clearly this device is made by geeks for other geeks but this has little relevance in the market. If you want to sell a phone/tablet/whatever the hell it is get ready to be compared to....the iPhone. The iPhone doesn't do many things because a lot of them simply aren't feasible on a mobile platform with little processing power and a very limited battery. However, everything else it does is basically perfect/almost perfect.

I love how Nokia keeps trying to avoid comparisons because they know there is none...No, this is a mobile tablet with phone functionality. WTF does that mean? You mean it's a smartphone like every other phone out there but you don't want it compared. They tried to pull the same BS with their N series mobile computer stuff.

Also, the point of this all is that all of us should start demanding better software from them. If they can't do it then get out and let somebody else try it. Attitudes such as "it's only step 4 out of 5, it's a tablet not a phone, it just came out" etc. is exactly what they strive on. They need to understand that they do not set any benchmarks anymore but the market does.

Last time I checked Android is up to version 2 and it already kicks all sorts of ***. How come Maemo 5 is finding all sorts of excuses for missing functionality, crappy scrolling and poor user experience?

Originally Posted by sondjata

Seems like I made the right choice waiting cause:
2) No sync and older apps won't work? So GPE suite is out of the question. Ermining out.

Originally Posted by sondjata

Seems like I made the right choice waiting cause:
1) No ATT 3G
2) No sync and older apps won't work? So GPE suite is out of the question. Ermining out.
3) No MaemoMapper <--- absolute dealbreaker.

So I'll be waiting for a price drop and/or GPE and Maemomapper ports or equivalents but if someone has an 810 they'll part with for a decent price...well..a low price..I'll probably bite that to get the keyboard.

Originally Posted by franklinn

so scrolling is not smooth in maemo 5?. Why oh why is Nokia struggling with a basic feature like Kinetic scrolling ? They still havent added this to the 5800 and the n97 implementation is quite mediocre. It seems they have very average UI developers and average wont cut it when competing with UI whizzes at Apple and HTC.

If I find this to be the case, then I may send back to Nokia and get a moto milestone. The n810 is good enough for me - I paid only £120 so I expect more from n900 at almost 4 times tht price.

Nokia, wake up !

Originally Posted by Laughing Man

Can Apple, Samsung, and Android boot into Debian? Can they run KDE? What about Open Office?

Sure there's smartphone office apps but not a true office program. Granted you may not want to use those things but those are the capabilities that Maemo provides. If someone provides a mobile office program on Maemo then you can run that and OpenOffice then. Is that something any of those manufacturers can do? Hence why I say the n900 is more tablet than phone. Also why I say if your looking for a smartphone your on the wrong platform right now. That won't be till the next step at the very least.

Originally Posted by homelinux

I will drop a few words in:

I have been a regular visitor of these forums for a few years (since I purchased my N800) and I agree that the crew here can get pretty deffensive when in presence of negative comments about Nokia stuff (justified or not). Then you have the common "search the forums" answer when a newbie asks something. The problem with this is that the search algorithm (IMO) is not great, every time I look for something it takes several attempts and there is no gurantee that you will be presented the "best" solution on top. With that said, and 10 pages of comments later, the originator of this thread hasn't provided proof of the chopiness he is complaining about. And I agree that he should have expressed himself in a different way (was cursing really necessary?). To give him the benefit of the doubt, he is probably upset with his purchase and was just venting.

Originally Posted by Holyshit

Yh Android does and it did so long before the N900. The T-Mobile G1 (and e.g. HTC Hero) run FULL Debian. Yes, they also support native X11, so you can run KDE, LXDE, IceWM whatever you want. So what your point again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8yBH...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjNhG...layer_embedded

Even better: it's a 1-click install for G1 owners.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529233
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.ph...e=Debian_on_G1
http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/co...9&id=1620#1620

So yh u get the best of both worlds: Android and full Debian on 1 device. When u need it u got full Debian in the palm of ur hand, when when u're finished u just switch back to a very nice smartphone OS. There's no emulation whatsoever and u don't need to wipe Android.



Windows Mobile 6.5/7 basically have quite good Office support. And basically Open Office is kinda bloated (it uses more resources than Microsoft Office, look it up) and hasn't got any touchscreen support - and the N900 doesn't have a trackball or D-Pad. And it's just silly to run something bloated like Open Office on a portable device. A lot of companies are moving to smartclients and webservices, look at Intel Moblin OS, look at Google Chrome OS, look at Microsoft's WebOffice.

In a couple of years time, writing office documents will be like webmail. Most people don't use local email any longer, and office on the internet allows you to access and share your documents anywhere and anytime, and you always have the most current version of the document in reach.