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2013-11-04 , 09:28
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#1101
Originally Posted by josch1337 View Post
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But maybe you really dont want/need more than 25k for now?
I kinda elaborated on that yesterday in here. We don't *need* (much) more funds for now, particularly once we reached the 25k goal. What we will strive for after reaching 25k phase-III project goal are a number of 1000+ donors that demonstrate their willingness to buy a device once those will be available - by donating 100+EUR which makes for a rebate we believe those donors will want to claim as soon as possible.
This number of 1000 rather certain "preorders" is something that enables us to negotiate on a whole new level with our component suppliers and the fab.

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#1102
Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
I kinda elaborated on that yesterday in here. We don't *need* (much) more funds for now, particularly once we reached the 25k goal. What we will strive for after reaching 25k phase-III project goal are a number of 1000+ donors that demonstrate their willingness to buy a device once those will be available - by donating 100+EUR which makes for a rebate we believe those donors will want to claim as soon as possible.
This number of 1000 rather certain "preorders" is something that enables us to negotiate on a whole new level with our component suppliers and the fab.

cheers
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In layman's terms - yes, we don't need more, but I'm sure everyone who wants to buy Neo900 wants more, as it may allow us to significantly drop the prices

Originally Posted by josch1337 View Post
Of course it doesnt have to. So what I'm suggesting is, that it doesnt. What do you (and jörg) think about that?
And what I'm suggesting is that we already took care of that
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2013-11-04 , 09:56
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#1103
Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
first teaser:
Code:
Australia	200.00 EUR
Austria	730.00 EUR
Brazil	100.00 EUR
Bulgaria	250.00 EUR
Canada	1600.00 EUR
Finland	860.00 EUR
France	1220.00 EUR
Germany	5660.00 EUR
Japan	100.00 EUR
Netherlands	380.00 EUR
Norway	100.00 EUR
Poland	210.00 EUR
Portugal	150.00 EUR
Romania	50.00 EUR
Slovakia	250.00 EUR
Slovenia	100.00 EUR
Spain	30.00 EUR
Sweden	20.00 EUR
Switzerland	1970.00 EUR
UK	670.00 EUR
USA	3260.00 EUR
total: 17910.00 EUR
there is no China. i have tried and sand email to Nikolaus but i can not get in touch with him.
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2013-11-04 , 10:04
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#1104
two completely made up stories to illustrate a few things:

Story #1
100 donors gave 250EUR each. We use 5000EUR of that for some early mech protos. Then we go
"Hallo MURATA, we need 100 special custom-made connectors to plug that display flex cable in."
MURATA answers "No way, sorry"
We have to cancel the project due to this and we will pay back 250EUR<donated_amount>*((25000-5000)/25000) = 200EUR (minus handling fees) to our donors

Story #2
1000 donors gave 100EUR each. We use 5000EUR of that for some early mech protos. Then we go
"Hallo MURATA, we need THOUSAND special custom-made connectors to plug that display flex cable in."
MURATA answers "Umm, OK. That's feasible"
We DON'T have to cancel the project due to this and we will NOT have to pay back 100EUR<donated_amount>*((100000-5000)/100000) = 95EUR (minus handling fees) to our donors.
However if we had to then obviously the "loss" for each donor is way smaller than in story one. To compare: for a 250EUR the refund would be 250*0.95=237.50 and thus the "loss" only 12.50EUR instead of 50EUR - that's the smaller individual risk.
The answer from MURATA for 1000 items (vs. 100) represents the lower project risk.

And of course we will get components for a more competitive price when we buy 1000 instead of 200.

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#1105
Originally Posted by yaliang View Post
there is no China. i have tried and sand email to Nikolaus but i can not get in touch with him.
Yesterday he said that he's going to answer few mails about "unsupported countries" today, so expect a mail any time soon
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#1106
Originally Posted by yaliang View Post
there is no China. i have tried and sand email to Nikolaus but i can not get in touch with him.
Nikolaus is understandably busy ATM, he'll get around to answer your mail and help you to place your donation today.

Sorry for the inconvenience!
cheers
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2013-11-04 , 10:24
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#1107
awww mannnn, after having my n900 abandoned (for almost a year), here I am, reading about the successor of the N900, the neo900..

is Malaysia supported? heheh.. =)
 

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... is Malaysia supported? heheh.. =)
Probably not, please follow the instructions and send a mail. Thanks!

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#1109
Heh, hopefully you will update the list of countries-donations soon. My payment was recently received; I am the third person in my country to send a donation, and it seems that both of them sent the same amount I did. Hopefully, the currently-difficult-to-reach countries will increase the count of pre-orders.
By the way, is anybody going to pre-order two Neo900? I would seriously consider this, if I wasn't so limited by reality. Maybe, I will persuade a friend to get one for himself, just to keep me company...
Best wishes. Thank you.
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Who is this ghost Nicolas. Is he real?

Nicholas, Reveal yourself
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