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mscion	2010-05-03 , 11:35
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Originally Posted by rebhana

I have now also found time to try out OO 3.2. The missing icons are due to openoffice.org-style-* files that were not upgraded by the above commands. To upgrade all the other openoffice.org packages that are already installed one additionally needs
Code:
apt-get install openoffice.org-style-crystal openoffice.org-style-galaxy openoffice.org-style-hicontrast openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-emailmerge
(I guess only galaxy is really needed to get the icons back in the standard configuration.)

EDIT2: @qole, what about securing a version of all OO3.2 armel packages in sid in case it gets again withdrawn or broken in the next versions?

I second this!

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	rebhana	2010-05-03 , 11:49
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Originally Posted by deny_winarto

Ermm, actually no,
Yes, the gnumeric.desktop file is moved and no longer in MyDocs directory, but i don't see the shortcut in the app list..
So maybe something's wrong with my code

I have also installed gnumeric and a desktop file under .local and it does work, even when I give a nonexistent icon as in your above posting. Let's check whether you've really done what you say. What do you get when you type in

Code:

cat /home/user/.local/share/applications/hildon/gnumeric.desktop

That should be now

Code:

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=gnumeric
Icon=gnumeric
Exec=debbie gnumeric
Type=Application

That should give a gnumeric app with a blank (blue) icon in the application manager (once you've rebooted, as I already said). If you replace the icon by an existing one, like ooo-calc (the ending .png is omitted) you should also have a special icon, but even without it works for me.

If still no - perhaps you haven't installed gnumeric yet?

That is most easily done with the Debian chroot terminal app (red swirl icon), by typing in

Code:

apt-get update
apt-get install gnumeric
apt-get clean

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suresh	2010-05-03 , 12:13
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can some one help me please?

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mscion	2010-05-03 , 13:28
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Originally Posted by rebhana

I have now also found time to try out OO 3.2. The missing icons are due to openoffice.org-style-* files that were not upgraded by the above commands. To upgrade all the other openoffice.org packages that are already installed one additionally needs
Code:
apt-get install openoffice.org-style-crystal openoffice.org-style-galaxy openoffice.org-style-hicontrast openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-emailmerge
(I guess only galaxy is really needed to get the icons back in the standard configuration.)
As to startup speed, I now get slightly above 1 minute when launched the first time, and when repeated around 45 sec. (time until the cursor appears in oowriter). With 3.1 it remained around 1 minute.

EDIT: The timings were for debbie. Curiously, in LXDE I get lower values - sometimes just 30 secs for repeated launches of oowriter.

EDIT2: @qole, what about securing a version of all OO3.2 armel packages in sid in case it gets again withdrawn or broken in the next versions?

Instead of "apt-get install ...all the extra files" you can just

apt-get install openoffice.org

and save some typing. Of course you'll probably get whatever else that may be missing.

The best time I got, assuming OOo is not opened" was about 35s to 36s to start typing. Rebhana, Just curious, is your n900 running at 600Mhz?

While using OOo writer I got a phone call. This disabled the
keyboard. Fortunately, I could still get out of OOo using the
stylus. But when I reopened OOo writer, the keyboard still did not work. I tried to use the fix keyboard icon but it did not help.
If I then shutdown the Debian LXDE and then fire it up again OOo writer with keyboard worked.
I also duplicated this by calling the phone with OOo writer running. Perhaps this should be a standard test (if it is not already) that any app should work if the app is running and a phone call is received.

It would be good if someone could check to see if they have the same problem. Is there a way to disable the phone when using
an app?

UPDATE: Apparently the phone disabling the keyboard may be a Debian LXDE problem. I also opened the Debian LXDE from scratch
and tried typing in ROXterm. It worked before the call but not after.
As another check I opened the xterm form maemo desktop
and I could type before and after receiving a call.

Last edited by mscion; 2010-05-03 at 15:32.

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	rebhana	2010-05-03 , 18:30
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Originally Posted by mscion

The best time I got, assuming OOo is not opened" was about 35s to 36s to start typing. Rebhana, Just curious, is your n900 running at 600Mhz?

I'm not overclocking, but I measured the time just until the cursor started to blink. It takes a few extra seconds until typed in text appears, so your values look consistent with mine.

While using OOo writer I got a phone call. This disabled the
keyboard. Fortunately, I could still get out of OOo using the
stylus. But when I reopened OOo writer, the keyboard still did not work. I tried to use the fix keyboard icon but it did not help.
If I then shutdown the Debian LXDE and then fire it up again OOo writer with keyboard worked.
I also duplicated this by calling the phone with OOo writer running. Perhaps this should be a standard test (if it is not already) that any app should work if the app is running and a phone call is received.

It would be good if someone could check to see if they have the same problem. Is there a way to disable the phone when using
an app?

UPDATE: Apparently the phone disabling the keyboard may be a Debian LXDE problem. I also opened the Debian LXDE from scratch
and tried typing in ROXterm. It worked before the call but not after.
As another check I opened the xterm form maemo desktop
and I could type before and after receiving a call.

There is a useful little app to quickly switch off phone and go to "tablet mode" (forgot its name).
Have you also tried OO outside of LXDE (from the application icon)? Or is that what you meant by the other check using "xterm"?

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	qole	2010-05-03 , 18:32
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Easy Debian needs approximately 0MB in rootfs.

EDIT:

Also, if you lose keyboard in LXDE, put LXDE on top and then hit the power key. Dismiss the power key menu by tapping outside the menu, on the blurred LXDE window. You should be able to type in LXDE now.

Is that trick not in the wiki? It should be.

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mscion	2010-05-03 , 21:08
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Originally Posted by qole

Easy Debian needs approximately 0MB in rootfs.

EDIT:

Also, if you lose keyboard in LXDE, put LXDE on top and then hit the power key. Dismiss the power key menu by tapping outside the menu, on the blurred LXDE window. You should be able to type in LXDE now.

Is that trick not in the wiki? It should be.

Ooops! I forgot about the "trick" For some reason the "Fix LXDE keyboard" didn't work and I didn't think to check the wiki. Thanks again.

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DrSteve	2010-05-03 , 21:23
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Can I delete the image and reinstall it (without having to do anything else) with the "Deb Img Install" shortcut, if I ever just want to start over?

How safe is apt-get autoremove these days?

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	rebhana	2010-05-03 , 21:24
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Originally Posted by mscion

Ooops! I forgot about the "trick" For some reason the "Fix LXDE keyboard" didn't work and I didn't think to check the wiki. Thanks again.

So the power key trick works reliably even when the "Fix LXDE keyboard" fails? Can you confirm that? Then we should perhaps say so in the wiki where the two possibilities are mentioned on a par.

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	qole	2010-05-03 , 21:25
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DrSteve: Yes, you can just delete the image and reinstall it. Make sure you "close" the chroot first, however!

Not sure what the apt-get autoremove comment is referring to. Inside the chroot? Or in Maemo? It would have no effect on the image file...

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