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Hi belloc, first make sure you have formatted you internal memory , this will fix a known issue... Then make sure you have only the needed repositories ( maemo and maemo extras ) then try again!

cheers

marcelo

Yup, that does the trick... I'll just need to remember to reset if I use the media player directly. Thanks.

my feedback on Beta7:

- All the themes I have (flat black, graphite & marbles) do not show either of the two lower buttons (back & options). I can access the back button by the hardware key, but have no link for the options menu; any solution?
- album entries work a bit better (recognized multiple entries for 1 more album; 3 to go!
(note: I created the ID3 tags myself, all tracks being tagged with an identical album title)
- maemo extras repository required for installation of youtube plugin is offline :S
- video playback still less efficient than MPlayer; did not notice any difference with beta6
- non-unicode characters perfectly supported (edit for my previous post)
- youtube works OK (exceeds my expectations to be honest). Was unable to try all the features due to lack of options menu.

I did not yet find the Last.FM plugin. Is this planned for soon?

Keep up the good work

Ilia

After using Beta 7 for a few days, I've now started to experience some problems. Sometimes when starting Canola, it will hang on "Loading" for a very long time, so that I end up having to close it from the swap button. This problem is intermittent, so I don't really have any more information to provide unfortunately, but I figured I should let the team know.
Hopefully the next version, with the download folder, will clear things up.
Still my favorite app on the N800!

Me too, I experience long load times. However, I should mention that I boot from mmc, and that the metalayer-crawler process struggles with my mp3 files for ~45 minutes after boot, so loading times of ~1min for canola are more than acceptable for me.
Note: the metalayer-crawler problem has NOTHING to do with canola; it's a system process for identifying mp3 and their ID3. the time it take on my device is astronomical for yet unknown reasons

Anyways, I noticed another problem: when I play saved youtube media, and click on the options button (complete reinstall of canola did not solve the problem; afterwards I rebooted and the problem disappeared...), the menu comes below the video.
In the screenshot, the video is completely green; that's a problem with the screenshot-taking tool i'm using. on my screen, there's the video with the menu below it.

hope you have enough time to take a look.

Good luck

Ilia

@iliaden :

- All the themes I have (flat black, graphite & marbles) do not show either of the two lower buttons (back & options). I can access the back button by the hardware key, but have no link for the options menu; any solution?

We are looking into this issue. We don't know exactly what is happening, but we did already some changes to the themes, to see if is in the theme files and also, removed some bindings that toogles the lower bar. If you are using the n810 try typing some letters in that screen (I forgot exactly which ones) the bar will show and hide :/


- album entries work a bit better (recognized multiple entries for 1 more album; 3 to go!
(note: I created the ID3 tags myself, all tracks being tagged with an identical album title)

Can you send the last 3? (sorry for the work), but it's the best way to find the bugs on our code


- maemo extras repository required for installation of youtube plugin is offline :S

This is beyond our control, and to avoid even bigger problems we cannot setup one for us.

- video playback still less efficient than MPlayer; did not notice any difference with beta6

This is also a mplayer issue. Mplayer when embedded mode does reduces performance. We are slowing doing researches on how to fix it, and also considering one new backend with the same (probably) performance but with a real API, easier to control and to avoid bugs.

- non-unicode characters perfectly supported (edit for my previous post)

Nice.

- youtube works OK (exceeds my expectations to be honest). Was unable to try all the features due to lack of options menu.

If you tried all options there, those were all the options. theres no way to implement everything at once right? and we started with a basic set, and now we will include a little more as needed by the users. Sort the search results, maybe comments, choose the downloads folder and maybe feeds will be probably implemented.


@slip
Slip: did you try at once letting the " loading" go for more time? (I know it sucks ) but for us there's a huge difference between hanging and taking 5-10 minutes.

Do you have a huge card? We are planning to include a "advanced" mode that turns off the library integrity check in the beginning, making it even faster to start up canola, but then make sure to refresh manually your library if you did any changes.

@iliaden:

Iliaden, thanks for clarifying that. Just to make sure, we have been so crazy about the optimizing the scanner, that in our last benchmarks we did we were already really fast. If I'm not mistaken, but I will not take this as official, as the others can have some bugs with out " test media " card, created with some of the files sent by you, LMS was considerably faster than the other scanners (in the other media players).

This goes back to the point that we need a reliable media playback engine. Unfortunately in our estimatives it would take 3 months to have one working with the performance near mplayer (based on libXine) but this would end with our problems related to this.

At least we are trying the possible : find the bugs even on other softwares and sending patches to try to fix it, the other projects have been great on talking to us, and this will improve over time.

Anyways, again thanks for a very detailed feedback

Marcelo

Marcelo I reformatted my internal memory card but that didn't seem to solve the issue. I ran the Canola cleanup routine and that seemed to unclog things. I was able to install everything and it's up and running. Love it so far!

-Chuck

I can replicate the issue with Flat Black* by having another application eating up processor cycles as Canola loads. Launching MicroB from a bookmark of Internet Tablet Talk's main page and then launching Canola does the trick for me. If Canola doesn't have to fight for processor time as it starts up, the bottom buttons appear.

* I haven't tried the other themes.

Hi sjg,

This is a really helpful feedback. Now we can take a much better look at the issue!

Thanks!

marcelo

Hi,

You asked for album problems - I uploaded one album that is not recognized as one. the link is: http://adrive.com/public/7528276f437...879c787d8.html
ID3 tags were constructed based on the filename, and the "album" for all the tracks was the same ("FRANCE").
All the tracks (or almost) are in french, 56kbps, mono. I usually lower the music quality to fit more songs on one mmc, specially since I cannot hear the difference.

Hope this helps

Ilia