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#111
Originally Posted by sygys View Post
Aren't there companies making high end and high quality batteries for nokia's? Maybe we can just buy it from another company?
Theoretically yes. I've seen companies (Sony Ericsson with the Xperia X1) that lock out their bios and won't recognize more than the OEM MAH. Lame. So we'll see.

Does anyone with a prototype and an extended battery for the 5800 see if the phone recognizes it?
 
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#112
Originally Posted by janzeeschuimers View Post

My Nokia N810 has a BP-4L battery with 1500 mAh.The new Nokia N900 will get the BL-5J with only 1320 mAh.
That is 180 mAh less in a successor.
Strange because the N900 has now things like:

-Integrated FM transmitter
-5 megapixel camera with dual led flash
-Call and data features like 3G and HSDPA.

And much more that the N810 did not have , so the N900 will need more power but gets less.
The N900's 1320 mAh battery has 12% (180mAh) less then the N810's 1500 mAh battery.
I think the n900 turns off things like the FM transmitter after it's not in use for a minute. Same for the camera (well that and it wouldn't even be running unless you slide open the camera lens). But I do find it odd that they gave it a smaller battery, and an inferior one at that too.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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#113
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
I think the n900 turns off things like the FM transmitter after it's not in use for a minute. Same for the camera (well that and it wouldn't even be running unless you slide open the camera lens). But I do find it odd that they gave it a smaller battery, and an inferior one at that too.
Well, you have to take into account the energy efficiency of the newer processor (OMAP3)...and who knows, perhaps maemo5 is better at power saving
 
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#114
Just on the previous page there was this "power saving will be perfect... when you're not using the phone" comment.
 
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#115
Originally Posted by texaslabrat View Post
LOL yeah, I was thinking the same...assuming the 2 batteries are the same dimensions length/width wise (I have no idea if that's the case, just throwing out a hypothetical)...the N97 battery is almost assuredly thicker and thus the cover isn't gonna go back on. Hope he ordered a roll of duct tape to go along with that battery
No, they are not the same. The N900 battery is the same as the one in 5800 Xpress Music, smaller and narrower, whilst the N97 battery is wider and taller.
 
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#116
That's exactly the problem. I don't know about you guys, but I'm a very active user. I don't care if my phone uses nearly no power while the screen is off, data is in scarce usage... Or whatever. I'm a hardcore user. I use my device for everything. For music, calls, internet, video playback, recording and taking pictures, as a calendar, sync between my pc and the device. I'd want my device to last longer while using it... Not while NOT using it.

Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
Just on the previous page there was this "power saving will be perfect... when you're not using the phone" comment.
 
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#117
Wow. The N900 will be pretty chuncky with an extended battery- assuming we see one, of course.
 
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Originally Posted by zkyevolved View Post
That's exactly the problem. I don't know about you guys, but I'm a very active user. I don't care if my phone uses nearly no power while the screen is off, data is in scarce usage... Or whatever. I'm a hardcore user. I use my device for everything. For music, calls, internet, video playback, recording and taking pictures, as a calendar, sync between my pc and the device. I'd want my device to last longer while using it... Not while NOT using it.
I agree, I'm mostly the same way. But my point was that your not going be using the camera 24/7. Now if the battery died within a day say after 50 pics then we have a problem. But most of the time your not taking out a cellphone camera for long continuous shooting. Unless your at a concert maybe.
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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#119
You guys should really read the threads in which you're posting in first

to quote from this very thread:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
As a baseline, the OMAP3430 consumes about the same amount of power while active as the OMAP2420, but it has a number of powersaving advantages.

First, it's quite a bit faster (2-3x faster depending on the task) which means for the same task it's going to be spending much less time active and processing and a lot more time idle than the OMAP2420 (this is called Race to Idle). As idle usage consumes orders of magnitude less power than even 0.1% usage, this translates to noticeable and immediate power savings even if all other factors are equal (which they're not).

Second, idle power consumption has been improved significantly. The OMAP2420 uses nearly no power while idle (fanoush managed to get about 30 days of battery life at idle) but the OMAP3430 is even better, as it uses basically no power at idle. Although the difference seems small on a larger scale, the relative difference is large and with as much time as the device will spend in idle this means big power savings.

Finally, the software, too, has seen large improvements in powersaving. Both at the library and application level and at the kernel level. Fremantle on the OMAP3 is more intelligent about hardware power management and more careful in how in consumers power in the userspace than Diablo on OMAP2.

Unfortunately, most of these advantages are offset by the inclusion of additional hardware (accelerometers, cameras, LED flashes, GPU—although the smaller screen represents a major reduction in power consumption) and, in particular, the cellular radio. So in the end, the N900, I suspect, is going to have a much lower power consumption at the extreme low end of usage and a slightly higher one running full blast. The end result for the average user is probably going to be marginally worse battery life, on average, than OMAP2 devices with a potential for slightly better battery life depending on usage.

i just want to add to that, that power saving is usually the very last thing that gets optimized before final shipping, so any speculation on our part is just that - pure speculation. we will have to have the device in our hands before we can make final judgment on battery life.
 

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#120
The above may be true for the "average Joe" (whoever he is, he's getting quite a bit of press lately ) but a faster processor here means I will be using the processor more time and not less.

Of course, power saving is absolutely noticed when calling, browsing, etc. since you don't need the processor to be awake 100% of the time. If that's your average usage then you'll get enormous increases in longevity.

But people like me are interested in torture tests also, and I believe it's not as good as the N810 on that point. (Take care: as I said, this means nothing for average usage).
 
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