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2012-09-10
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I hope Jolla will get involved in VoIP and video conferencing, resurrecting the XMPP/Jingle UI effort which Peregrine was busy with. I'm personally not interested in Skype. Framework is all there (Telepathy and Farstream). Except that Mer still doesn't bundle the VP8 and Opus codecs. No point in feeding MS interests, when Jolla can work on open source "ecosystem".
Can't say that personally. Lack of video Skype is a problem to start my list of what's lacking.
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2012-09-10
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Originally Posted by shmerl
My problem is that Peregrine were the ones that discontinued that and didn't have the decency to announce it clearly to the community. There was a lot of back and forth about that; it just boils down to that it was an endeavor that will never bear fruit.
I hope Jolla will get involved in VoIP and video conferencing, resurrecting the XMPP/Jingle UI effort which Peregrine was busy with.
I'm personally not interested in Skype. Framework is all there (Telepathy and Farstream). Except that Mer still doesn't bundle the VP8 and Opus codecs. No point in feeding MS interests, when Jolla can work on open source "ecosystem".
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2012-09-10
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Yeah, they just silently halted the development without any announcements. That's why I say may be Jolla will pick that up (or better to reimplement the UI anew, since I don't really like Peregrine one), since Jolla can be more committed.
I think hangouts isn't strictly XMPP with MUC. They use some server side multiplexing for media streams, so it's Google specific and non standard.
Client wise let's first see some working generic XMPP/Jingle application with a single user conferencing. Multi user video/audio is a more complex thing to tackle. And it's a questionable experience on a handset. It's more for desktops (or at least tablets) I think.
Last edited by shmerl; 2012-09-10 at 19:27.
I think hangouts isn't strictly XMPP with MUC. They use some server side multiplexing for media streams, so it's Google specific and non standard.
Client wise let's first see some working generic XMPP/Jingle application with a single user conferencing. Multi user video/audio is a more complex thing to tackle. And it's a questionable experience on a handset. It's more for desktops (or at least tablets) I think.
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2012-09-10
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Is it possible to know something more about the hardware of next device?
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2012-09-10
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Not until they'll announce it (some time this year).
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2012-09-10
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Originally Posted by shmerl
Whatsapp is a nice example that muc can work on mobile :P
Yeah, they just silently halted the development without any announcements. That's why I say may be Jolla will pick that up (or better to reimplement the UI anew, since I don't really like Peregrine one), since Jolla can be more committed.
I think hangouts isn't strictly XMPP with MUC. They use some server side multiplexing for media streams, so it's Google specific and non standard.
Client wise let's first see some working generic XMPP/Jingle application with a single user conferencing. Multi user video/audio is a more complex thing to tackle. And it's a questionable experience on a handset. It's more for desktops (or at least tablets) I think.
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2012-09-10
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Originally Posted by shmerl
Maybe basyskom, peregrine devs, already has cooperated with jolla for longtime to implement it in theyr upcoming mobile
Yeah, they just silently halted the development without any announcements. That's why I say may be Jolla will pick that up (or better to reimpleme.
Basyskom is one of the main contributors of qt too if I remember correct...
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2012-09-10
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Originally Posted by ZogG
MUC/Muji can work for media as far as your bandwidth allows. Which is of course good to have. See (http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Muji). Now just keep in mind how client multiplexing will work. Google figured out that server multiplexing works better for weaker channels, but it's not any standard and not part of XMPP.
Whatsapp is a nice example that muc can work on mobile :P
And by the way, in general Whatsapp is not a nice example, because it's not a generic XMPP server/client and their servers aren't federated, so it proliferates walled IM networks, instead of expanding XMPP. And the Qt client efforts are wasted on it, because instead of creating an open source XMPP/Jingle client, developers are busy with Whatsapp. (Unless they plan to make a generic one, with Whatsapp being one of the options).
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Let's hope, but their communication of their efforts is way too poor. And judging from the Peregrine commits - it's not developed for a while already.
Maybe basyskom, peregrine devs, already has cooperated with jolla for longtime to implement it in theyr upcoming mobile
Basyskom is one of the main contributors of qt too if I remember correct...
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2012-09-10
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#1210
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You can always watch iphone 5 show while waiting for Jolla to wake up.
Waiting and patience are not two of my strongest characteristics.
But jolla seems to be good at that
Waiting and patience are not two of my strongest characteristics.
But jolla seems to be good at that
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