Originally Posted by don_falcone

Oh, Palm. File them under "further running". I'd never got around liking the Treo 650. I'd never got around to being comfortable with Graffitti too. Maybe an US specific thing.
Btw the N7650 could install before the Treo.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman

This is great news that WP is gaining traction. Stock will hit 10 in 2 years. buy it now

Originally Posted by danramos

... most people seem to forget that their phones can ALSO make calls.

Originally Posted by lma

Meh, legacy cellular voice calls are overrated.

Originally Posted by gerbick

So how do you conduct business that requires voice calls?

Originally Posted by specc

WP larger than iOS Seriously

http://www.gsmarena.com/wp_reportedl...-news-4268.php

There is no way for any non-Android smartphone to snatch 7% of the market in two months in China for new sales. For the totality of the market, 7% is even ludicrous to consider (with estimated 300M+ smartphone owners 7% would make at least 21M, which is more than the amount of WP devices sold by all manufacturers world-wide since its inception). I cannot find Q1’12 stats for China atm. but even if we go with the data from Q4’11, you can see how large of a number is 7%.

In Q4’11 there were 32M smartphones sold in China (Canalys), 7% of that would be 2.24M. Further, the expected growth for the Chinese market for Q1’12 was 13% (Chinese New Year ‘n all that) according to IDC, so one can estimate at least 36M smartphones sold in China in Q1’12, of which 7% would be 2.52M, which is almost the amount of WP phones sold world-wide by all manufacturers in Q1’12 according to Gartner. If you take into account that the world largest mobile carrier, China Mobile (~67% of Chinese subscribers), is not selling any WP devices atm. 7% for the WP would be crazy to even consider possible.

The claim that the WP is trumping over the iPhone on the Chinese market is also wishful thinking – there are more than 15M iPhone users on China Mobile (which doesn’t offer the iPhone, btw.) alone who are forced to use 2G and happily do it, still – that’s way more than 7% conjured by whoever gave that nonsensical estimate. Even with new sales taken into account only, there just is no way for that number to hold its own.

What might, and just might be possible is 7% of China Telecom (selling a couple of WPs including the Lumia 800c) new sales to be WP – that would land it somewhere in the 300k-400k range – which at least sounds achievable, unlike the original claim in all its grotesqueness.

Originally Posted by danramos

You DO realize I pointed out the HANDSPRING TREO (LONG before there was a Palm Treo 650) there WAS a Handspring Treo 180--which pretty much came out about the same time as the Nokia N7650. That's without bringing up the Handspring Visor's wireless data cartridge modem back in 2000.. effectively making it more like today's smartphones (minus the voice) since most people seem to forget that their phones can ALSO make calls.

Originally Posted by gerbick

So how do you conduct business that requires voice calls?

Originally Posted by zwer

You DO realize that Nokia had a device with installable apps, voice calls and even a 'full' web browser (quite limited for today's standards, but it still rendered HTML pages of the time) in 1998 - the famous Nokia 9110 - right?