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Originally Posted by rash.m2k
this developer device (qwerty) was meant to be the consumer one back 2010! the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. so it get delayed. Nokia put money into the development of this device and now it got outdated specs and if they have released it as a consumer device, then everybody would be disappointed about the hardware and saying it isn’t competitive. So Nokia decided to make this near perfect device a dev-phone only, which is not going to be sold like e7, n8, e6....so devs have something to „play“ with and can start to (re)write some apps for Harmattan. The second harmattan device (KB-Less) which should be released way after the N9 (qwerty) is now the one and only real consumer harmattan device.
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2011-05-20
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Originally Posted by rash.m2k
if a device could allow you to reset the firmware in a matter of minutes (like it is the case for the N900), would it be a problem for you that it looks nice and that ppl (without the slightest dev ambition) might buy it BECAUSE it is nice (and, maybe, as
I don't understand why something is a 'developer' device only, it doesn't make sense.
For a developer device we don't care how it looks! What we want is to be able to debug/view code, registers etc... thats more important, than the looks.
There is no point in putting effort into making it look nice if it's not going to be available to the public! The only difference between a dev device and consumer device would be the type of firmware loaded on - to enable them to recover the device quickly.
Originally Posted by larux
points out, keyboard might be considered useful by (some) consumers too, no? the others can get themselves a pink N8 for all i care;
I don't mind if developer device is that keyboardless. I'm pro consumer who WANT decent qwerty with good OS.
It would be gigantic failure to give devices w keyboard to devs only.
or simply NOT use the keyboard
MY POINT: THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE ONE REPEAT ONE DEV (as Elop, nearly throwing up, i bet, had to admit; well, for him, even that one was too much, i'm sure >¦-)
the RM-680 certified by FCC
will be presented end of next week in S.F.
if MeeGo doesn't pick up after that, respectively unless THAT one device is a commercial success w/ sales in the millions unit, it will be the end of Maemo (as far as NOKIA is concerned)
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2011-05-20
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Originally Posted by zymo
i would be quite content if this turns out to be what has happened, depending on how "way after" the consumer devices ends up arriving.
this developer device (qwerty) was meant to be the consumer one back 2010! the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. so it get delayed. Nokia put money into the development of this device and now it got outdated specs and if they have released it as a consumer device, then everybody would be disappointed about the hardware and saying it isn’t competitive. So Nokia decided to make this near perfect device a dev-phone only phone, which is not going to be sold like e7, n8, e6....so devs have something to „play“ with and can start to (re)write some apps for Harmattan. The second harmattan device (KB-Less) which should be released way after the N9 (qwerty) is now the one and only real consumer harmattan device.
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2011-05-20
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Originally Posted by tissot
Led the wrong way around
Or E7.
"filler text"
Originally Posted by ikirk
Led too close to the top and the wrong shape.
I think it's an N8 myself.
It's also not an C7 (wrong shape) X7 (Wrong shape, led too close to top)
This however:
Has the correct shape, the led is the correct shape and it's in the right place.
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Originally Posted by mece
This is like watching CSI.
Led the wrong way around
Led too close to the top and the wrong shape.
It's also not an C7 (wrong shape) X7 (Wrong shape, led too close to top)
Has the correct shape, the led is the correct shape and it's in the right place.
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2011-05-20
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Originally Posted by zymo
that's always been the massive assumption in popular media, I've never seen any real proof to verify it.
the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. .
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/show...l=1#post942400
I reckon it's been ready for quite some time now...
Meego-core, of course not, Harmatten_Meego you betcha it's possible.
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2011-05-20
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Originally Posted by rash.m2k
I'm not going to pretend i know or don't know but maybe like someone else mentioned before, the keyboard device is a developer device because it was complete in 2010 before Nokia decided that maybe the SOC was old and outdated and designed a newer more up-to-date device but rather then throw away 500-1000 already developed devices, give them away as developer devices and then release the more powerful up-to-date device??
I don't understand why something is a 'developer' device only, it doesn't make sense.
For a developer device we don't care how it looks! What we want is to be able to debug/view code, registers etc... thats more important, than the looks.
There is no point in putting effort into making it look nice if it's not going to be available to the public! The only difference between a dev device and consumer device would be the type of firmware loaded on - to enable them to recover the device quickly.
Again just a guess and if this is the case and that leaked video is new, why show a KB device???
Personally I want a KB device and have been waiting for one for a long time, if the original galaxy S came out in the UK with a KB (like it did abroad) I would have had one, but it didn't so I’m still waiting for a >= 4" KB device (regardless or operating system) and who provides one first will get my money, though I have to admit, this new Nokia device is probably the only one that is tempting me to get it regardless of whether it has KB or not.....
EDIT: TO SLOWWWWW
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2011-05-20
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Originally Posted by zymo
what planet are you living on?
this developer device (qwerty) was meant to be the consumer one back 2010! the hardware was ready, but the software wasn’t. so it get delayed. Nokia put money into the development of this device and now it got outdated specs and if they have released it as a consumer device, then everybody would be disappointed about the hardware and saying it isn’t competitive. So Nokia decided to make this near perfect device a dev-phone only, which is not going to be sold like e7, n8, e6....so devs have something to „play“ with and can start to (re)write some apps for Harmattan. The second harmattan device (KB-Less) which should be released way after the N9 (qwerty) is now the one and only real consumer harmattan device.
really think NOKIA would spend (waste?) millions for developers to play around? the N900 (obviously) did and still is doing the job. no need of another device for that.
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2011-05-20
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix
way after the initial release date: q4 2010
i would be quite content if this turns out to be what has happened, depending on how "way after" the consumer devices ends up arriving.
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Originally Posted by jalyst
That DSmobile guy sounds interesting in that thread claims he has KBless N9 and being saying a while its the release device.
that's always been the massive assumption in popular media, I've never seen any real proof to verify it.
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/show...l=1#post942400
I reckon it's been ready for quite some time now...
Meego-core, of course not, Harmatten_Meego you betcha it's possible.
He even described UI a while back which he kinda seems to of got correct
now you see all the evidence is adding up from different sources too.
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