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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by andrewfblack
This is a common misconception. Now that I've paid my dues to the various organizations I see no reason why I shouldn't make fart apps to recoup my costs.
Don't get me wrong I will buy some applications and have no problem paying for good ones but I kinda think that making people be a corporation and have insurance will keep the number of Fart apps on Ovi down.
Personally, I'm not going to, because I think fart apps are silly. But if I really wanted to sell out, I'd have absolutely no qualms about doing it whatsoever. People who think that putting an upfront cost will reduce the number of joke and pointless apps aren't thinking like people who want to make money.
If anything it will promote more people into pumping out second-rate apps in an attempt to break even.
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2009-11-20
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At least they will be quality fart apps maybe.
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2009-11-20
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Originally Posted by andrewfblack
That's pretty much how I see it. I have no problem with proprietary software (when it works!), although I prefer free software.
I might piss some people off but I'm a GNU kind of guy I don't feel sorry that someone who wants to charge for an application has to spend money to make it. Don't get me wrong I will buy some applications and have no problem paying for good ones
Potential sellers on the Ovi store will have to decide whether the cost involved in getting the required insurance is enough to make it less likely that they will make money at it. If not, so be it.
I understand Nokia's position. Requiring insurance is the only way to make the indemnification clause effective. The indemnification clause between you and Nokia has absolutely no effect on the right of a third party to sue Nokia. You can't contract away someone else's rights.
Smaller companies certainly don't have the financial resources to defend Nokia against an IP lawsuit, thus the insurance. Larger companies will already have general liability insurance.
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2009-11-21
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Originally Posted by andrewfblack
But there should be reasonable limits to the charges. Why should individual coders be disadvantaged against corporations? That's something I don't like.
I might piss some people off but I'm a GNU kind of guy I don't feel sorry that someone who wants to charge for an application has to spend money to make it. Don't get me wrong I will buy some applications and have no problem paying for good ones but I kinda think that making people be a corporation and have insurance will keep the number of Fart apps on Ovi down.
And besides, the issue isn't simply about money, but the sizes, numbers and complexities of the various barriers put into place here. IMO they're overly restrictive.
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2009-11-21
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Originally Posted by andrewfblack
The problem isn't with the Fart apps. The problem is that it will keep the total number of apps down to below a dozen or so. Seriously, how many developers will go through all this trouble just to sell their stuff through Ovi?
I might piss some people off but I'm a GNU kind of guy I don't feel sorry that someone who wants to charge for an application has to spend money to make it. Don't get me wrong I will buy some applications and have no problem paying for good ones but I kinda think that making people be a corporation and have insurance will keep the number of Fart apps on Ovi down.
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2009-11-21
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Originally Posted by sharper
Well, then we clearly have a different understanding of what Open Source should be. Let's call it free software instead. And that is where source code availablity isn't irrelevant.
The "reasons" for paying for OSS software are numerous and the point is not that people will always publish the source code for their N900 applications - the point is that source code availability is irrelevant to this discussion.
As said, I do understand if people want to sell apps, but I'd rather see people going the free software route.
People do pay for OSS applications and the limited ability to make software for the N900 and get paid for it by people who want to pay for it will hurt the platform. People will just go to other competing platforms and those applications and users will be there instead of here.
Nokia needs to figure out what the heck it's doing. As I wrote in another thread Nokia has all the appearances of an organisation in civil war. Different people are obviously trying to push it in different directions and what we end up is a compromise that satisfies nobody.
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2009-11-21
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Originally Posted by SubCore
Um, no, he doesn't really say that. And why should free software be in ovi if there are already is a community driven repository catering exactly to those people?
in the other thread quim said that Ovi will also contain OSS.
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2009-11-21
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The original idea was that maybe it could be a (don't laugh) simpler and more streamlined way of collecting donations for open source projects than paypal.
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2009-11-21
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Not very on-topic, bugt sincde it has been mentioned re Maemo Select:
About wallpapers with potential copyright issues, I did ask. http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...rs/1.3-1maemo3
About wallpapers with potential copyright issues, I did ask. http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...rs/1.3-1maemo3
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