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#131
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
That's a new development...
Have I ever said it isn't?

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
and Symbian != Maemo
Have I ever said it is?

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I sorta refuse to speak on a platform that I will never support.
Well you're no fun...
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Originally Posted by efekt View Post
Have I ever said it isn't?
Don't forget you're potentially talking to folks that's owned multiple Maemo devices, only to have them short ended because Nokia just wanted to push out something new.

770, N800, N810, N810 WiMax, N900... in order, they had OS 2005/06, OS 2007/08/Diablo, OS 2008/Diablo, OS 2008/Diablo, Maemo 5. The 770 had OS 2007/08 Hacker Editions (they were horrible, didn't have the Flash plugin), N800/N810 had... well, nothing. Mer, Mer^2 never happened. And the N900... par for the course with the prior generation so far.

My point is that the upgrade path(s) on the Maemo devices has been real limited - 13 months maximum in most instances. Compared to some other folks, that's a lot. To some others, that's minor. The fact it's being sold as a (prior generations) internet tablet or (present generation) a mobile computer, the lack of coherent communication in regards to upgrades plain suck.

And I know the age-old point a finger at the few Android 1.6 phones that have yet to receive an update. Most were cheap, not $600+ dollars like the N900, but those users are basically screwed. I have a Samsung Captivate. If it weren't for XDA Developers, I wouldn't have 2.2.1, I'm playing with a 2.3.1 alpha right now, and it's about as unofficial as you can get.

If anything, I was really expecting that same level of stuff from this community. Hasn't happened at all.

Symbian... I'm not a fan. And all of the stuff happening around it right now - have ensured that I will not put it on my radar. I've liked Maemo from the moment I touched a 770. I've liked this forum the moment since I've joined it. That doesn't mean that I cannot state that I am 100% pleased with all that I see.

Compared to XDA, the output of stuff here is pretty minor on the OS side. Compared to anybody else though, the developers are (or were) creating apps and functionality that just didn't exist. Even that has slowed down to a crawl.
 

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Relax guys! N900 is a undefeated champion. That means it is the best of the best!



Its simply too great to get any update...
 

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#134
Meego is not ready for a mobile phone yet. Anyone with N900 can confirm this. So N9 can't be released or it would be stupid to release.
 
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Originally Posted by zimon View Post
Meego is not ready for a mobile phone yet. Anyone with N900 can confirm this. So N9 can't be released or it would be stupid to release.
Nokia has released unfinished products before.
 

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Originally Posted by zimon View Post
Meego is not ready for a mobile phone yet. Anyone with N900 can confirm this. So N9 can't be released or it would be stupid to release.
What Nokia were planning to put on the N9 was actually a Meego compatible version of Maemo 6 (Harmattan) commonly referred to as Meego/Harmattan on these forums, which bears little relation to the version of Meego we can run on the N900, so that Meego on the N900 is unfinished doesn't mean anything for the N9 if they are carrying on with that plan. But we don't know what Nokia's current plans are for the N9, they may have scrapped Meego/Harmattan and gone for pure Meego (with their own UI) instead.
 

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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Nokia has released unfinished products before.
Nokia now has a new executive stack, to go with their new software stack. Hopefully this would mean changes to that behavior.

That or both will need patches.
 

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Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
Nokia now has a new executive stack, to go with their new software stack. Hopefully this would mean changes to that behavior.

That or both will need patches.
But of course! The current executive team is only step 4 of 5.
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Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
Nokia now has a new executive stack, to go with their new software stack. Hopefully this would mean changes to that behavior.

That or both will need patches.
Given how this forum, a bunch of enthusiasts are reacting to Elop being at Nokia, I can only imagine that a group of highly paid executives, some were overlooked for that job, are having an equally bad, if not worse reaction to an outsider joining their ranks.

Office politics are second to only government politics in standing in the way of things getting done.

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Originally Posted by somedude View Post
are you on the Nokia's payroll? if you are dont tell me you are in thr PR department.
who gives a crap about other companies and how they do the business. my neighbor is poor dont have a tv or computer or even a car and walks 4 miles to get his groceries. does that mean i should be doing the same?
all i care about is myself and my life and the phone i bought and for thw money i paid i want the company to make it better or atleast fix some security holes. i dont give a damn about what ios or android does i dont use their phone so they can do whatever they want.
"who gives a crap about other companies and how they do the business."

Yeah, there are ALOT of people here whining about "I should have bought an Andoid instead" or "Nokia should going Android" blablabla..

So maybe you should ask all those people the same as you ask me!!?

Maybe THEY are payed by Google or working for HTC!?

People here should not be so damn naive all phones has problems! I am sure same people whining exatly the same if they bought an HTC and found that the also lacks updates or have other problems! if you and others wants updates every month then you probadly have to pay alot more for the HW.

And btw. security updates? Give me an example were this is an problem on N900? I am not an expert but in the Linux world security fixes is updated far more often than in the windows case.

Btw. Non other OS is updated forever. Just take a look att Microsoft that is releasing a new bigversions every third year or so... And all people is paying for it without even whining!

And no I am not a Nokia employer or in theyr PR department. But I prefer real OS:es like Meego Linux instead of broken Linux OS like Android that why I am "Lobbying" for Meego/QT at my "freetime".
 
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