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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
And require less pressure to press... and have a definitely "click" feeling when you successfully press them. The E71's key feel is MUCH better than the N810's. And, IMO, the G1 is a perfect example of how a small device can have a great key feel, and a great 5 row layout (it could fit in the same area as the N810's, I'm pretty sure).
It would be nice if the N900 had a slightly separated keys with defined edges and a small 'bump' or different texture on the 'f' and 'j' keys so that they could be found without without looking.
I'm thinking a fifth row of number keys will put the device too off-balance when using its stand.
I would rather the keys be shrunk and a small numeric keypad be placed to the right of the alphabet keyboard! This would probably require that the Dpad/menu-key be moved.
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
A number pad would be nice but you're right, it would spell the end of the d-pad. A decent compromise would be to be re-label the keyboard to have the numbers in a group on the right side keys laptop style rather then along the top. The fn actions already there are traditionally above the top row anyway so moving them isn't going to be a huge shock. And with double tap fn locking it to number entry you basically have a dedicated numberpad without losing existing functions.
I'm thinking a fifth row of number keys will put the device too off-balance when using its stand. I would rather the keys be shrunk and a small numeric keypad be placed to the right of the alphabet keyboard! This would probably require that the Dpad/menu-key be moved.
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2009-04-20
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Originally Posted by ekul
No, it wouldn't. You'd just have to put the d-pad back where it belongs: on the face of the device.
it would spell the end of the d-pad.
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Hey ,
How about a number keypad that doubles as a d-pad ?
It would have to be toggled somehow.
The "5" key (and perhaps 8,4,6,2) would have to be a bit bigger.
7 8 9
4 5 6
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8<>up , 4<>left , etc , 5<>OK
( 7 , 9 , 1 , 3 might be used for diagonal movement )
How about a number keypad that doubles as a d-pad ?
It would have to be toggled somehow.
The "5" key (and perhaps 8,4,6,2) would have to be a bit bigger.
7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3
8<>up , 4<>left , etc , 5<>OK
( 7 , 9 , 1 , 3 might be used for diagonal movement )
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Only if you're clumsy or an idiot.
. . . sounds like a great way to end up with a hole in your screen.
Flush bezels on countless other products out there and having a hole in your screen is not a main byproduct of said feature.
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Originally Posted by KristianW
Hmm, sounds too fiddly for quick use. With the d-pad, you know that there are only four directions, and it's practically impossible to click it wrong. Also, when typing numbers and you go back, you'd have to keep switching number lock on and off. Johnkzin has the right idea; put the d-pad and back/menu/home back on the face where it belongs!
Hey ,
How about a number keypad that doubles as a d-pad ?
It would have to be toggled somehow.
The "5" key (and perhaps 8,4,6,2) would have to be a bit bigger.
7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3
8<>up , 4<>left , etc , 5<>OK
( 7 , 9 , 1 , 3 might be used for diagonal movement )
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That would increase device size, though 
How about dual slider, qwerty + dpad on one (big) slide, dpad + numpad on the other (small) ? And then the small slide becomes the most convenient way of (un)locking the NIT as well.
How about dual slider, qwerty + dpad on one (big) slide, dpad + numpad on the other (small) ? And then the small slide becomes the most convenient way of (un)locking the NIT as well.
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Originally Posted by attila77
If you're talking about re-locating the Dpad, it doesn't necessarily mean that the device must get bigger. Just shift the screen to the right to make more room on the left (or vice-versa). Many mobile devices feature an asymmetrical layout.
That would increase device size, though
Of course, some individuals may have an issue with the units styling, but I think it could look quite regal if done right.
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Yup. If you look at the Nokia N97, it wouldn't be too hard to move the D-pad to between the red and green buttons on the face (you'd need to make the diagonal button less diagonal, though). Which, IMO, is where it belongs :-)
You could use a dpad the size of the ones on the E61i or E71, as well. In fact, if you directly stole the ones from the E61i, you'd be able to put it in the same side-rail space that's on the N810, and you'd have a 5way dpad PLUS 8 other buttons (IMO: menu, escape, home, zoom in, zoom out, full screen toggle, and then maybe two soft buttons). Or you could use fewer buttons and make it more elegant. But, my point is, you can easily put a smaller dpad on there, and Nokia already has those smaller dpads in their parts inventory.
(or, the E71's button group, which then also incorporates the throbbing status light into the space between the dpad ring and select button)
Last edited by johnkzin; 2009-04-20 at 21:19.
You could use a dpad the size of the ones on the E61i or E71, as well. In fact, if you directly stole the ones from the E61i, you'd be able to put it in the same side-rail space that's on the N810, and you'd have a 5way dpad PLUS 8 other buttons (IMO: menu, escape, home, zoom in, zoom out, full screen toggle, and then maybe two soft buttons). Or you could use fewer buttons and make it more elegant. But, my point is, you can easily put a smaller dpad on there, and Nokia already has those smaller dpads in their parts inventory.
(or, the E71's button group, which then also incorporates the throbbing status light into the space between the dpad ring and select button)
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I can 'almost' use the keypad without staring at the keys, but I'm not at that point yet!
I'm thinking a fifth row of number keys will put the device too off-balance when using its stand. I would rather the keys be shrunk and a small numeric keypad be placed to the right of the alphabet keyboard! This would probably require that the Dpad/menu-key be moved.
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