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2008-03-31
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I just wish the developers could stop the NIH mentality and look at Mobile OSX as a reference; the fact of the matter is it shows how much can be done with such an inferior display. If even a fraction of that attention could be applied to the hildon platform think of how much can be achieved.
Higher resolution, while helpful for porting applications, is not an excuse to ignore the fact that this is a mobile platform.
Higher resolution, while helpful for porting applications, is not an excuse to ignore the fact that this is a mobile platform.
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by slha89
The problem with clutter is that it presumes 256mb of RAM and 3d acceleration ( both very sane decisions based on the landscape ). Clutter might be applicable to the mysterious n900 series, but it will likely not be the solution for the current and previous models.
Maybe clutter-project.org does everything on a N8x0.
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2008-03-31
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#144
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I love the complaints and comparisons made that exclude important context.
That's what makes these threads such fun!
That's what makes these threads such fun!
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by sachin007
No, I'd rather not...
Look at the difference between the os2007 and os2008.
You can clearly see that the latter is a better interface.... which i think was more driven by the competition from the touch/iphone. What i meant was that the firmware upgrade defintiely improved the user interface more because it lacked a good one initially. In all other regards you really cannot compare the tablets to any other portable device.
And I honestly don't see a move to a finger-only interface -- basically trying to copy the iPhone (<spit!>) -- as an improvement. For one thing, it was done so haphazardly that people don't stop complaining about the "not meat not fish" attitude of 2008. Nokia would have done better to keep focusing on the dual nature of the interface and direct improvements towards perfecting that neat idea. Instead, they made it worse. As usual...
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2008-03-31
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Copying the iPhone (finger-only) is not an improvement.
Going more finger-friendly is an improvement.
Some apps lend themselves to finger usage much better than others; modest is an example. The addition of the wide scrollbar really does make that nice.
Switching the menus to be pressure-insensitive seems good to me; cool as the idea was, there's too much variation in finger and stylus taps to effectively discriminate by pressure.
Where they goofed on that (to me) seems to be giving us only one choice; if we could select the icon size (or, since it was already written, even select to auto-detect) we wanted, it would be better.
I've heard no other specific complaints about the finger-friendliness; the UI overall seems neither better nor worse, because of dumb stuff Nokia pulled on us, but the actual finger enhancements seem good to me.
OS2008 is better for me; better battery life is worth having (and I get that with OS2008, courtesy of CPU frequency scaling), and USB host-mode is really nice, too.
Going more finger-friendly is an improvement.
Some apps lend themselves to finger usage much better than others; modest is an example. The addition of the wide scrollbar really does make that nice.
Switching the menus to be pressure-insensitive seems good to me; cool as the idea was, there's too much variation in finger and stylus taps to effectively discriminate by pressure.
Where they goofed on that (to me) seems to be giving us only one choice; if we could select the icon size (or, since it was already written, even select to auto-detect) we wanted, it would be better.
I've heard no other specific complaints about the finger-friendliness; the UI overall seems neither better nor worse, because of dumb stuff Nokia pulled on us, but the actual finger enhancements seem good to me.
OS2008 is better for me; better battery life is worth having (and I get that with OS2008, courtesy of CPU frequency scaling), and USB host-mode is really nice, too.
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
See, the thread is all about (review compared to a N810).
No, I'd rather not...
Actually, I can't see the difference, because the reported problems of 2008 are of such a nature that I decided not to install it.
Software wise the N810 uses OS2008 (and only that).
And you never cared to install OS2008 - because of some perceived problems that you read about.
And then you go about comparing and complaining and critiquing on this thread about the functions of the N810 (which is what this thread is about) without even having installed OS2008.
No wonder most of us with enough brains don't take these threads seriously - its all only good fun and amusement, as Texrat said.
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2008-03-31
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Actually, you can run OS2007 on an N810. 
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by Benson
Having to take out the stylus or access buttons on the slider should indicate a UI design failure for a mobile platform... it's that simple.
Copying the iPhone (finger-only) is not an improvement.
Going more finger-friendly is an improvement.
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2008-03-31
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Originally Posted by sachin007
I never thought it's a good thing to comment on things you don't know or care about. You're very resilient on pushing your view and ignoring other's post
..... but i never bothered to confirm it and i dont care either.
..... but i think the advantage is that even if you use the n8xx and run out of battery you can still use your phone for making phone calls. And there is always the advantage of carrying additional batteries. Ithink the iphone having a 3g is going to have a very hard time keeping up with the battery life as 3g just guzzles the battery like anything..... so it will take apple a while before it can figure out 3g.
I think we should all step back from this uber-affinity to these products and think back to *why* we need these devices in the first place.
Think before you evangelize.
I have nothing against N810. It's a great developer hardware, nothing to discuss.
But I'm not biased to N810. And the (G)UI of a touch/iphone is how a GUI on a mobile device should be implemented (IMHO).
Maybe clutter-project.org does everything on a N8x0.