Originally Posted by qole

I know, I said I wasn't going to play with it anymore; I lied. I wanted to see if the extra bit of speed helped some of the games that Ubuntu has available...

Here is a tarball of the Mojo Ubuntu rootfs with Firefox installed (99 MB). It also has the basic stuff in place (GTK stylus support, HW key stuff like fullscreen and popup keyboard) to use it effectively with the Easy Debian package. No Flash support. I think it has the OpenGL stuff in it, I can't remember if I installed that stuff before or after I made the tarball. Anyway, you can find out by running "debbie glxgears" and see what happens.

To use this (with Easy Debian), you really need to make a partition, untar the filesystem into it, then point your ~/.chroot file at the Ubuntu partition.

Some silly game stuff:

• Full Quake 2 is really nice looking (SDL software rendering, not GL). Runs fast!
• Armagetron (uses OpenGL) is just barely playable at 4-5 fps. Somehow I find this game addicting, even at this speed...
• Alien Arena (uses OpenGL) starts up, gets about 5fps at the menus, but won't finish loading a level.

Some tech details:

• I don't have alsa set up. You'll have to do that yourself, or wait for a possible next-generation tarball that I might put up if people show some interest.
• I've added all of the mojo distributions to the sources.list, because some stuff, like Quake2, was dropped from later versions of Ubuntu, but it is still there in the older distributions.
• Enabling the mamona distribution can lead to some serious problems, because Ubuntu and Mamona seem to have slightly different package names in many cases, and that can lead to all sorts of conflicts in dependencies.
• Enabling the Debian distribution is even worse. It downloads arm packages (instead of armel) no matter what you tell it the architecture is. One possibility here is to download just the missing packages from Debian armel and dpkg -i install them, using --force-architecture and --force-depends (because the Debian version numbers tend to be higher than the Ubuntu Hardy numbers). I tried this for the gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad package, but it is a long and arduous process, and I just ran out of steam before I got finished...

Browse the Ubuntu repositories and see if there's anything you'd like (me) to test out.

Originally Posted by Stskeeps

Johnx and I are slowly working on a proof of concept of Maemo Reconstructed (http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Reconstructed - please keep the discussion to technical issues on the wiki, not high level goals such as open source everything in GPLv3 or "A2DP" and such, you can put those in this thread instead :P it's a system level discussion, not world domination discussion).. based on mojo for now to see if it's feasible to have a generic Maemo platform (with room for other things than Hildon.)

But if you do have a genuine clue about system architecture or comments about SDK and such, feel free to contribute.

Just wanted to let you know.

Originally Posted by nuttttz

Is it not possible to install ... Debian ... natively on the N810 rather than in a chroot environment?