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2011-07-21 , 03:57
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Originally Posted by lemmyslender View Post
Don't ask me, ask Jaffa. Seems pretty straightforward to me. If we shouldn't continue discussions on the future of the community on tmo, as it is "poorly used AFAICT" per Jaffa, tmo is obviously expendable.
I may be wrong, but I think Jaffa mean app forum-like part of garage, not TMO. If he *really* mean TMO, that would be absurd, of course. Still, this may be big misunderstanding, so make it clear, before You (two) start catfight, please

Originally Posted by ysss View Post
@abill: will you please just take your nonsensical rants elsewhere? I can assure you that if all you want to do is just yell out complaints all day long and walk in circles, no one is interested in that.
Don't feed the troll pls.
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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
Don't feed the troll pls.
Take a look at ysss public profile and you will see all he has ever done from day one in my opinion is TROLL and that is very clear to see when you read his posts, he has started 7 threads from day one and often deletes his posts when he realises it stands out too much as trolling.

Many of his posts are crytical of other users on here and he is a classic flamebait starter as i have often found out with him in the past.
He is obnoxious, rude and is neither a developer or an engineer in any way or form and has never contributed anything but the latter so please spare me your ctitisism as you are no better in my opinion then he.

I am being realistic of this forum and its troubled future, trying to make suggestions for the good so at least be thankfull for that.
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Guys, chill. This isn't the place for fighting.
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Can we please dispense labeling opposing viewpoints with the "troll" label and instead offer constructive debate and arguments? I'd like to see some genuine answers to these questions instead of seeing people getting shunned.
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Originally Posted by lemmyslender View Post
Don't ask me, ask Jaffa. Seems pretty straightforward to me. If we shouldn't continue discussions on the future of the community on tmo, as it is "poorly used AFAICT" per Jaffa, tmo is obviously expendable.
Err, I was talking about features of garage.maemo.org. It provides a GForge implementation of forums for each project. That you didn't know this proves my point they are poorly used.

Please reread my post in light of the fact that I had quoted sjgadsby talking about Garage's features. I then expect an apology.
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#146
Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Err, I was talking about features of garage.maemo.org. It provides a GForge implementation of forums for each project. That you didn't know this proves my point they are poorly used.

Please reread my post in light of the fact that I had quoted sjgadsby talking about Garage's features. I then expect an apology.
Apology not likely mate because your words were

"Having just scrolled through two pages of non-productive crap, I suggest such discussions don't a) occur on this thread and b) maybe not even on this forum. Wherever you, lma and whoever else is adding value is."

and as your reffering to THIS thread it means your downing everyones words that you disagree with and not allowing people to freedom of speech.
 
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
"Having just scrolled through two pages of non-productive crap, I suggest such discussions don't a) occur on this thread and b) maybe not even on this forum. Wherever you, lma and whoever else is adding value is."
To be honest - the flying-off-the-handle which followed on from a critique of the GForge features which are relevant to developers and users of Garage proves that constructive conversations in this thread are drowned out by people who are more interested in revisiting the same points again and again, and talking more than actually coming up with a plan or a way forward.
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
To be honest - the flying-off-the-handle which followed on from a critique of the GForge features which are relevant to developers and users of Garage proves that constructive conversations in this thread are drowned out by people who are more interested in revisiting the same points again and again, and talking more than actually coming up with a plan or a way forward.
And if you read my posts you will see i was not only concerned but giving some thoughts on the way forward for this community.

As this is a Council thread then anything to do with this community will be posted here obviously unless you can let everyone know where to post what?.
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Err, I was talking about features of garage.maemo.org. It provides a GForge implementation of forums for each project. That you didn't know this proves my point they are poorly used.

Please reread my post in light of the fact that I had quoted sjgadsby talking about Garage's features. I then expect an apology.
In all fairness, I was confused and thought you meant this forum as well.

The interesting thing is that all the features in garage are great for getting new projects with no resources off the ground...but in my experience you get exactly the same problems with SourceForge - hardly anyone uses the features available because the devs don't use them and the devs don't use them because the users don't use them.

If the desire is indeed to do away with garage, then I guess if you could automate our "new project system" to create a new forum for each project here that could work (and you'd probably want something similar for mailing lists)...but I'd worry about the main page becoming unmanageable. I'm not sure if TMO's forum software can handle another layer of depth either. The generic forums (applications/games/etc) have a lot of noise too, it's almost as if they should be nested underneath the OS platform they apply to.

..or look at how other large multi-project organisations handle this and mimic their infrastructure. Getting the software infrastructure is usually easy - it's all OSS after all. The difficulty comes from handling the load.
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Can I ask a potentially stupid question?

Why is all of this being decided in such a vague way so close to the release of Harmattan and was not discussed after the release (and downtrend) of Fremantle?

What was the prior contingency plan?
 

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