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Lumiaman
2013-07-18 , 19:19
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Elop says Q3 they will success......
NOKIA sold more than BBRY, yet stock price is lower. NOKIA is undervalued.
 
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2013-07-18 , 19:24
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In my last post I forgot to say that Elop is one of the biggest troll of all CEO:s in today world.
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2013-07-18 , 19:58
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
NOKIA sold more than BBRY, yet stock price is lower. NOKIA is undervalued.
NOKIA sold more units but did they sell more in money? I can't find BlackBerry's results but my guess is their ASP will be quite a bit higher than NOKIA's.

BlackBerry also own their own ecosystem so they have opportunities to earn more money from their customers after the device is sold.
 
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2013-07-18 , 20:12
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
Elop says Q3 they will success......
NOKIA sold over 28m smart devices in the last quarter before Elop killed MeeGo and Symbian and the market has doubled in size since so I think he needs to at least get beyond 56m Lumias per quarter before he can talk of success.
 
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2013-07-18 , 20:39
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter View Post
NOKIA sold over 28m smart devices in the last quarter before Elop killed MeeGo and Symbian and the market has doubled in size since so I think he needs to at least get beyond 56m Lumias per quarter before he can talk of success.
There we go with the Symbian and Meego......lol, lol, lol
 
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2013-07-18 , 21:13
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
There we go with the Symbian and Meego......lol, lol, lol
7.4m? Even Yulong (who?) did more than that.... lol, lol, lol

Have they even recovered the marketing budget yet? lol, lol, lol

Series40+J2ME v Android? You've got to be kidding, right? lol, lol, lol

Oh, that Stephen Elop's full of wit... lol, lol, lol

It's so funny I'll bet the tens of thousands of people who've lost their jobs through his treachery are p1551ng their pants right now... lol, lol, lol
 
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2013-07-18 , 21:27
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#1547
You are moving absolutely nowhere. You are like rocks fighting out a battle and are unable to move in any direction what so ever.

[How was my English?
1 of 10 or 10 of 10.]
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Lumiaman
2013-07-18 , 23:22
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Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
You are moving absolutely nowhere. You are like rocks fighting out a battle and are unable to move in any direction what so ever.

[How was my English?
1 of 10 or 10 of 10.]
Dave,

what were you trying to say? In english please.

Sincerely,

Yours Truly, Lumiaman
 
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2013-07-19 , 04:56
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
Dave,

what were you trying to say? In english please.

Sincerely,

Yours Truly, Lumiaman
That you all found your foxhole and digged in unable to advance or retreat. .
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2013-07-19 , 08:26
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter View Post
In Q1 NOKIA sold 6.1m smart devices with an ASP of EUR 191
In Q2 NOKIA sold 7.4m smart devices with an ASP of EUR 157

So they did more work for less money.

Increased volume is better for Microsoft because they have more punters for the apps etc... but greater volume for less revenue just makes NOKIA busy fools.

It seems Elop's magic touch is starting to work for the mobile phone division too.
+ Microsoft still gets license fee per phone. Their WP license income was up 200 million last quarter. Nokia sells more units, pays MS more but had smart devices income growth at 0%, due to lower ASP.

Ellop's plan keeps being good for MS.
 
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