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#1711
He probably meant to prefix IT with 'sh'
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-nokia-patents

time for nokia to enter the patent fight fro real to make way for a new nokia tablet. Apple and google are using their patents, so time for nokia and microsoft to push harder in this area.
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I'd rather say, "time for Nokia to enter the patent fight because if there's enough of these, the patent systems will eventually have to be reformed".
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Entering the patent fight might have a backlash mainly due to the drawn out way it went with Qualcomm and later they're dependent on them for hardware via their strategic partnership with Microsoft.

As it stands, Nokia entering into the patent fights as opposed to securing the residual income from their patent portfolio could be damaging. Nokia needs to work with other companies, not against them imho.
 
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I don't remember ever talking about litigation attacks to ban other manufacturers. I distinctly remember talking about Sony and the like shifting it's influence to change laws. Whatever tangent you are on, is your business.
I saw that after you mentioned the evil, I initially thought you were answering his question directly as an example. Keep in mind this was before your edit with the additional information too.

Anyway, my main point was lobbying by an entire industry to stop piracy isn't evil and that it was the whole industry and not Sony specifically though they seem to get the brunt of it. SOPA itself wasn't "evil" for trying to stop piracy (if anything I consider piracy "evil" if anything has to be defined as such, though I know people have their reasons for it too) what was wrong with SOPA was that it was poorly written and stupidly vague which didn't get public backing, that's why many companies withdrew support after the draft bill. What's strange to see is that Sony withdrew support for SOPA yet others, which includes the "Big 3", didn't. It also invested the least in that bill as part of the big 3 (the big 3 media and entertainment conglomerates run most of the industry, in the recording industry they were known as the big 4 until Universal bought EMI) yet they still bear the brunt for having initially lobbied to stop piracy. Universal and Time Warner hardly get a mention and they supported it till the end. I just don't see why, perhaps those who get enraged by it like their comic book movies too much for harsh words or a boycott.

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I understand your confusion, but I wasn't talking about litigation. I believe that patent litigation is a flaw in the system that desperate companies will always use, and it's a system based on a sound principle that unfortunately is used to secure rights to too many obvious design choices that never should have been granted. It's not evil until it's abused. It IS abused, but for now I will leave to others to decide what patents should and should not have been given.

As to SOPA/lobbyism not being evil:

In my opinion, going outside of the official channels, using money directly as an influence on elected officials to change a working law outside of the elected officials official policies to improve profit is by itself evil. Lobbyism is inherently evil. It is borderline legalized corruption, and the very existence of it pushes our politicians and officials over the edge onto a slippery slope.

Furthermore, the shape and form of laws like SOPA/PIPA and the european equivalents form tools that is bad for mankind overall. To make money. This is evil.

Finally, that other corporations also do it, doesn't make the leading company less evil.

Mind you, I'm not going to defend piracy. But even today there is a perfectly working copyright law in most countries, that could and should be utilized against piracy, without turning to censorship, mass surveillance and removing citizens the right to internet access. Not only is the copyright laws fully operational, but the same lobby interests are changing them continuously, which is why no copyrighted work will ever fall into public domain for as long as you live. I quite understand the need to stop piracy. But the ways proposed are worse than the problem.
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It's official, Apple wins "Evil C*nt of the Week":

Galaxy Nexus pulled from Google Play store

https://play.google.com/store/device...axy_nexus_hspa
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That was last week. Haven't really spotted any unusually tech-evil activity yet this week.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/25874...pard_name.html

Plus, yesterday was the last day to apply to sue nokia for Freud (related to stockmarket)
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Yes... I find that an odd case. Suing someone for failing to gain stock value, because they (Nokia) said they'd do good. Doesn't each and every company ever upsell their future value? Oh, well.
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