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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
I think part of the problem is that "fragmentation" has become a dirty word instead of looking at it pragmatically for what it is without immediate prejudice. The problem here is that one person's "branching' or "forking" is another person's "fragmenting."

Personally, I am not at all opposed to "fragmenting" things if it's done appropriately.
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#1782
Nokia paid Elop more than $6m to leave M$, I thought M$ would be paying Nokia to take Elop?? This has to be the deal of the century for M$?

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Originally Posted by govprog View Post
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
WHOO!! Achievement unlocked!
Actually it's not the video game one but it's the real one:P,guess happened just after the elopocalypse.(Looks like elopocalypse is changing everything.)

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#1785
Here's Nokia's views of risks in MS marriage for investors:

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#1786
Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
Your argument is completely off the wall, I honestly cannot follow it.
Yes u can't and this is your problem

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But you insist on attacking people from a point of view that has no real relevance on what is (or presumably once was) a highly technical end-user forum.
Yes!! You finally get it It took you two pages of reading to understand what I want to say.
I said, or tried to say (writing in english makes it more complicated to me) that maemo sank, and i bet meego will, because YOU made it closed platform. BECAUSE YOU DON"T GIVE A F U C K about ppls needs. You closed it not from a programmers point of view, but from a customer point of view. So Nokia understood, that there is no point in investing in a platform, which won't attract new CUSTOMERS (do i need to write a definition of this word? Well i will write the cynic one: It is a guy from whom a company can suck money). The great (again - no irony here) linux, maemo, open source generally speaking community will allways support itself. You have specyfic needs, very diffrent then the needs of averages. But this makes the platforms, in which such community is involved, or "worse" - on which they are based, useless for making money.

Nokia understood that, nokia was disapointed. I bet, that when they tried to put n900 on wider scale market they thought - hey, we gave Them the best platform ever created, and the decent hardware. So let's just sit down and watch They make apps and we will earn $$$. But u didn't. What You did, was write an apps which was USEFULL, not EYECANDY and FUN. - you wan't attract an average customer by that.
 
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Originally Posted by Funklord View Post

The talk about "linux is fragmented" just proves this point, it's pure marketing talk that spreads like wildfire, with no actual proof, and how can it when such a statement is so vague.
Sorry, but BS. You've not learned obviously anything about reading the differencies about rpm and deb and why LSB has chosen and made a decision.

But just look in meego forum, why Nokia is not allowed to use "Meego"-name in N950 and try to guess how expensive it will be for Nokia to change from deb to rpm, and all this because Linux fragmentation in this issue, which would had easily fixed long ago by Debian and Ubuntu if they wouldn't be so stubborn.

Ask gqil how expensive it will be for Nokia and if it would had been easy, they would had done it already last year.

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Originally Posted by Qrchack View Post
Yes u can't and this is your problem



Yes!! You finally get it It took you two pages of reading to understand what I want to say.
I said, or tried to say (writing in english makes it more complicated to me) that maemo sank, and i bet meego will, because YOU made it closed platform. BECAUSE YOU DON"T GIVE A F U C K about ppls needs. You closed it not from a programmers point of view, but from a customer point of view. So Nokia understood, that there is no point in investing in a platform, which won't attract new CUSTOMERS (do i need to write a definition of this word? Well i will write the cynic one: It is a guy from whom a company can suck money). The great (again - no irony here) linux, maemo, open source generally speaking community will allways support itself. You have specyfic needs, very diffrent then the needs of averages. But this makes the platforms, in which such community is involved, or "worse" - on which they are based, useless for making money.

Nokia understood that, nokia was disapointed. I bet, that when they tried to put n900 on wider scale market they thought - hey, we gave Them the best platform ever created, and the decent hardware. So let's just sit down and watch They make apps and we will earn $$$. But u didn't. What You did, was write an apps which was USEFULL, not EYECANDY and FUN. - you wan't attract an average customer by that.
You wan't??? Is this a new word?
Btw Elop is already rocking the Nokia.

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Originally Posted by Qrchack View Post
Yes u can't and this is your problem



Yes!! You finally get it It took you two pages of reading to understand what I want to say.
I said, or tried to say (writing in english makes it more complicated to me) that maemo sank, and i bet meego will, because YOU made it closed platform. BECAUSE YOU DON"T GIVE A F U C K about ppls needs. You closed it not from a programmers point of view, but from a customer point of view. So Nokia understood, that there is no point in investing in a platform, which won't attract new CUSTOMERS (do i need to write a definition of this word? Well i will write the cynic one: It is a guy from whom a company can suck money). The great (again - no irony here) linux, maemo, open source generally speaking community will allways support itself. You have specyfic needs, very diffrent then the needs of averages. But this makes the platforms, in which such community is involved, or "worse" - on which they are based, useless for making money.

Nokia understood that, nokia was disapointed. I bet, that when they tried to put n900 on wider scale market they thought - hey, we gave Them the best platform ever created, and the decent hardware. So let's just sit down and watch They make apps and we will earn $$$. But u didn't. What You did, was write an apps which was USEFULL, not EYECANDY and FUN. - you wan't attract an average customer by that.
Well said. Having a device that is supported by a community that has individuals who, when users look for support in using the thing, more-or-less tells them it is meant for developers and to **** off and find out for themselves is never going to work. I guess Nokia could see this. It is not rocket science.

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I don't undersant Nokia : forget the good Maemo to MeeGo and forget the powerfull MeeGo to a bad Windows Mobile...
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