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#171
Originally Posted by qole View Post
Multitouch test: what a very, very cool idea. The main problem right now is that the guessed location of my second finger (ext) is still pretty inaccurate, especially on angles. It looks like the problem is that the touchscreen doesn't report the "false finger" exactly in the middle of the two real fingers.

I bet this is going to require you to write a calibration program; you're going to have to write a data collector that records the location of the first finger (thumb) and second finger (finger), and then you'll lift the first finger (thumb) so the screen can "find" the second finger. When I let go of the first finger (thumb), the second finger marker (finger) slides over under my real finger, so you can use this placement as the calibration...

Just babbling, because this is such a neat idea, and I want it so badly...
It essentially depends on relative "pressure", though, so it's never going to be exact. Some sort of calibration can probably help, though...
 
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#172
qole,
yes the multitouch is uncalibrated and raw and will never be 100% pixel perfect, but its relative to your finger and gives enough to demonstrate principles or allow additional ui interaction if so required.

The main problem with the technique at present is handling the edge cases towards the start and end of the touching, but thats a filtering problem rather than anything.

If i had bitmap rotation code in place I would have tested with that to see just how stable it can be made, I'm hopeful it can be made pretty slick
 
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#173
heh benson, didnt see your reply.
I doubt any calibration can be setup or will be required since depending on how much you roll your thumb it drifts slightly anyway.

Its taken me so long to get this idea out because I've not thought about it for a while, the touchscreen on my primary nokia is knackered and does not respond to finger touch (main reason why i did not write any working test code) and it wasn't until the summit that I obtained a device with a working screen
 
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#174
I had to buy a second tablet (another N800) too, because my primary device's touchscreen is "knackered" as well; it has been so badly abused over the past year (yes, we can all sing "happy birthday" to my "Millenium Falcon" N800) that the left side reports very incorrect pressure info.

All I can say is that I wish I had been in the right place / right time in Berlin to "obtain" an N810 too. I'm pretty much in the dark when it comes to things like N810 keymapping etc.
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#175
heh qole, you have come away from the summit with something much better than a tablet.
You have illicit green elixir.
Have you tried making a louche with sugar yet?

Last edited by lcuk; 2008-10-14 at 19:59.
 
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#176
ahh, the fairy makes an appearance from within Germany?

lcuk, love the multitouch..... excellent work.

thanks for all you are putting into this!
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#177
ah yes, that famous French-but-can't-buy-it-there stuff, how did it go ? :-)
 
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#178
Actually the stuff I bought is Swiss; the guy at Absinthe Depot talked me into it. Well, maybe "tasted me into it" is better. He lined up a bunch of shot glasses and poured samples from a whole bunch of really nice brands...
I've got a video of the louche on YouTube. I'm not a big fan of adding sugar to it.

I've got to get around to posting my Berlin photos...
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#179
yes, you do.
I took my camera with me but never got to use it apart from sitting in hotel room the night before trying to record video for my presentation.

I'm glad my laptop failed now, I know how to present to lots of people and when I was sat down talking to a few people it was much easier and I wasn't nervous
It really didn't matter to me that there was 200 people looking on the screen behind me
 
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#180
don't debase yourself... your presentation went really well, everyone was too stunned by the demo to notice anything else anyway :-)

at least you didn't have the language barrier problem. I thought many people showed a lot of courage during those community talks, and am still amazed at how well it went...
 

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