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2014-05-20
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Originally Posted by dos1
Not really sure what I Just watched. How does this video fit in the world of neo900. Replicant is android? I know I'm Totally lost right now.
If you like videos, there's another one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1IM9Vd2_2s
Replicant and SHR running on GTA04. Thanks to recent work on the kernel and Device Tree migration, in future I should be able to take the SD card out of that GTA04, move to Neo900 and just boot it
Notice how smoothly Replicant works on this 800 MHz CPU (that's older version, newer ones have 1 GHz, just like Neo900 will have) without any 3D acceleration! So all you can see on this video is completely FLOSS.
PS. Exclusive photo from the backstage: https://i.imgur.com/QumRGNo.jpg
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2014-05-20
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Originally Posted by Dave999
Replicant is a FLOSS distribution of Android. Everything that works on GTA04 should also work on Neo900. Neo900 will actually be a GTA04 variant, being able to boot the same kernel etc.
Not really sure what I Just watched. How does this video fit in the world of neo900. Replicant is android? I know I'm Totally lost right now.
Hopefully I'll soon be able to record similar video, but with Fremantle instead of Replicant/SHR. That would be a great milestone for "NeoFremantle" project
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Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak - https://dosowisko.net/
Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
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2014-05-20
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#1884
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Ya considering the neo900 board is a squashed in-to-fit variant of the gta04..this demo shows that whatever the gtao4 can do...pretty much the same is gonna be for neo900..THAT is the point!..woohoo! 
I can't wait to piss around with it!
mean Tecknohakr soundtrack btw
I can't wait to piss around with it!
mean Tecknohakr soundtrack btw
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1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
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Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2014-05-20
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#1885
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Will the Neo900 support JTAG or a serial console over USB?
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Maemo Leste for N950 and N9 (currently broken).
Devuan for N950 and N9.
Mobile devices with mainline Linux support - Help needed with documentation.
"Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." - Henry Spencer
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2014-05-21
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Originally Posted by wicket
Please elaborate what exactly you want to know. There's serial console (UART3) via low-voltage-RS232 in N900 (under battery) which is used by NOLO and kernel as console and which might change to a proper RS232 adaper in Neo900 (just about to check that detail in schematics). There's a spec for serial over USB via RX on D+ and TX on D- (or other way round) which probably won't get supported. There's USB ttyACM which is supported even by ROMBL in some form. There's JTAG on SoC which may or may not be available on Neo900. There's even EmbeddedTraceMacrocell / ETB with JTAG and its special bus, to do in circuit CPU tracing.
Will the Neo900 support JTAG or a serial console over USB?
What do you want to do?
/j
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2014-05-21
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#1887
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Humm mxkey phoenix bb5dongle etc not gonna work na because of diffrent hardware 
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2014-05-21
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw
I asked about JTAG only out of curiosity and am unlikely to do anything with it.
Please elaborate what exactly you want to know. There's serial console (UART3) via low-voltage-RS232 in N900 (under battery) which is used by NOLO and kernel as console and which might change to a proper RS232 adaper in Neo900 (just about to check that detail in schematics). There's a spec for serial over USB via RX on D+ and TX on D- (or other way round) which probably won't get supported. There's USB ttyACM which is supported even by ROMBL in some form. There's JTAG on SoC which may or may not be available on Neo900. There's even EmbeddedTraceMacrocell / ETB with JTAG and its special bus, to do in circuit CPU tracing.
What do you want to do?
/j
What I'd like to know is if I will be able to connect a USB-to-RS232 null modem cable to the mircoUSB port and hook up a physical terminal such as a VT100 (in reality I'll probably just hook it up to my PC and connect to it with cu or minicom). This would obviously be more convenient than building a cable to hook up to the pad connectors under the battery.
I'd also like to be able to do the reverse and use cu or minicom on the N900 to connect to the serial console of a server.
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DebiaN900 - Native Debian on the N900. Deprecated in favour of Maemo Leste.
Maemo Leste for N950 and N9 (currently broken).
Devuan for N950 and N9.
Mobile devices with mainline Linux support - Help needed with documentation.
"Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." - Henry Spencer
Maemo Leste for N950 and N9 (currently broken).
Devuan for N950 and N9.
Mobile devices with mainline Linux support - Help needed with documentation.
"Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." - Henry Spencer
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2014-05-22
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#1889
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Originally Posted by wicket
Latest idea we discuss in the team: add a second micro-USB socket and a FT232 converter within the Neo900. So you can access the console any time you like. With standard cables and no need to open the device. Even if you currently use the normal USB socket in OTG mode. And even use it to charge the battery in that case (no Y cable needed).
I asked about JTAG only out of curiosity and am unlikely to do anything with it.
What I'd like to know is if I will be able to connect a USB-to-RS232 null modem cable to the mircoUSB port and hook up a physical terminal such as a VT100 (in reality I'll probably just hook it up to my PC and connect to it with cu or minicom). This would obviously be more convenient than building a cable to hook up to the pad connectors under the battery.
I'd also like to be able to do the reverse and use cu or minicom on the N900 to connect to the serial console of a server.
Of course, this is a quite new idea and circuitry needs to be reviewed.
-- hns
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2014-05-22
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Neo900 Progress Update - May
Now I have to go, so newsletter/RSS/social media etc. will follow in next hours
Now I have to go, so newsletter/RSS/social media etc. will follow in next hours
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Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak - https://dosowisko.net/
Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1IM9Vd2_2s
Replicant and SHR running on GTA04. Thanks to recent work on the kernel and Device Tree migration, in future I should be able to take the SD card out of that GTA04, move to Neo900 and just boot it
Notice how smoothly Replicant works on this 800 MHz CPU (that's older version, newer ones have 1 GHz, just like Neo900 will have) without any 3D acceleration! So all you can see on this video is completely FLOSS.
PS. Exclusive photo from the backstage: https://i.imgur.com/QumRGNo.jpg
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak - https://dosowisko.net/
Long term Openmoko supporter. Owner of two Neo Freerunners, a few N900s and some others too.
Future owner of the Neo900
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